Aderans

[UK_]

There is still

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8DtIVIA_3g

[garethbale]

That's right. Their care about baldies and their hair as well as their breakthrough (marketing)techniques is well-known everywhere:

http://youtu.be/iCTxLBOMOSU

http://youtu.be/BwqvpDCoeLg

http://youtu.be/C7SwA1ENqxI

you are a ****ing weirdo! seriously, seek help!

[UK_]

And.... they're only going to make real money....

.... if the product fcking works!!!!!!

[534623]

I do think many of the guys behind Aderans do care about us and our hair, but their investors are more interested in money.

That's right. Their care about baldies and their hair as well as their breakthrough (marketing)techniques is well-known everywhere:

http://youtu.be/iCTxLBOMOSU

http://youtu.be/BwqvpDCoeLg

http://youtu.be/C7SwA1ENqxI

[hellouser]

Conclusion: its all about the money they don't give a **** about our hairs..

Good. Because the sooner they release, they sooner theyre going to GET MY MONEY. And I'm willing to throw down thousands of dollars.

I do think many of the guys behind Aderans do care about us and our hair, but their investors are more interested in money. And that should say a lot too, because anytime theres cash involved, you know for sure theyre going to want to bank on it FAST. Money actually is far more of a push than anything else, lol, this should give you a lot of confidence. And I don't say this to sound cynical of the situation, because I usually am especially since George Carlin is one of my idols. I say this because humanity is greedy and if stopping/reversing hair loss is done in the name of money, I guarantee yo there will be a mandate for it.

You made the point that if we dont get a solution we make our own... well, since countries are ultimately run by the people, why dont you make an effort to FORCE the solution to be made available? Start up a rally, organization, community, join others, make a strong case for it (and that includes the tax benefits too) and you'll win some people over.

[Boldy]

omg, I guess its better to ignore you posts from now on.

[534623]

it comes down to that.

REALLY?
He is saying at the meeting something like "Producing of thousands brand new follicles from scratch works fantastic" ... "but it's not easy to roll out this into the clinics because it does not fit in our profit plan"....

I give a sh't what you BELIEVE what's the real reason - everything I want to know from another user here is WHAT EXACTLY IS HE SAYING IN THE VIDEO concerning this issue - and not any paranoia out of your ass.

[Boldy]

Is it that what he is saying at the meeting/in the video?

it comes down to that.

Seriously, NOBODY is talking here about your dp crap paranoia.

Oh man you can't be serious right?.. You seem more stupid than I ever expected someone to be ... sometimes I really feel sorry for you. I guess people are right on this forum, that you are not good in your head...

if you read at least their first study it is DP culture that they show on the youtube video. so the video is for sure taking about DP.. and they stepped away from that due to a limiting factor which can be 1 only one thing, therefor reread my post 1 page back.

[534623]

Not easy to roll out into the clinics (money) it does not fit in their profit plan.

Is it that what he is saying at the meeting/in the video?

Seriously, NOBODY is talking here about your dp crap paranoia.

[Boldy]

another thing also these dp cells should be cultured under 5% co2, 37C, super controlled environment. the process itself is pretty labor intensive. Costs to much + the profit they want of it.

it would be a rich peoples cure only..

Knowing this, disappoints me, and have to make my own plan.

Not easy to roll out into the clinics (money) it does not fit in their profit plan.

For example it costs them 4 K to culture the DP cells. that would mean they have to sell the procedure for 6-8 K. end result less people interested(less end profit).


their second not so promising method is probably easier, does not require special trained professionals and is easily done for 500 usd (just an example). this way they can sell the procedure for 2-4 K per person. end result much interested people that can afford it. more profit, and repeated procedure per person until the head gets full of hair....


Conclusion: its all about the money they don't give a **** about our hairs..



what can we do about it?
1. Accept the fact that DP culture could take yet again another 5-10 before it hits the market.
2. Find our own solution that consists of DP culture and do it somewhere probably in Asia.

[Boldy]

Not easy to roll out into the clinics (money) it does not fit in their profit plan.

For example it costs them 4 K to culture the DP cells. that would mean they have to sell the procedure for 6-8 K. end result less people interested(less end profit).


their second not so promising method is probably easier, does not require special trained professionals and is easily done for 500 usd (just an example). this way they can sell the procedure for 2-4 K per person. end result much interested people that can afford it. more profit, and repeated procedure per person until the head gets full of hair....


Conclusion: its all about the money they don't give a **** about our hairs..



what can we do about it?
1. Accept the fact that DP culture could take yet again another 5-10 before it hits the market.
2. Find our own solution that consists of DP culture and do it somewhere probably in Asia.

[534623]

That's the point and question where my previous post ended up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_JHbtXJ0a8

Is Dr. Washink saying in the video what you say?
So what exactly is he saying concerning "producing unlimited amount of donor hair"?
Is this still their goal?

Okay - this is the third time I'm asking the same question ...

(04:30>>>) "The problem with that assay was …"

So what exactly is he saying concerning this problem, or in other words:
why did they cast away their initial idea of creating thousands of brand new follicles from scratch?

[Kiwi]

Their trials are a ONCE-OFF treatment, there are no follow up injections!

From what I understand, DP cells remain the same throughout your whole life, so in theory there will not be any need for a top up! Then again we may be proven wrong once ppl start using it on a mass scale and we realise that we do need a top up every 10-15 years!

More importantly, my main point was that if there are adverse events associated with it, these may persist for a long time as we don't have a way to remove these cells once they are transplanted!

Now you're freaking me out - somebody with BAD Fin sides needs to guiney pig this one!!

[Vox]

More importantly, my main point was that if there are adverse events associated with it, these may persist for a long time as we don't have a way to remove these cells once they are transplanted!

This is my main preoccupation with this kind of treatment. I am afraid it will take decades in order to have life-long lasting and risk-free hair regeneration/multiplication inside the human body.

I have more faith in in-vitro hair multiplication and then transplantation.

[Desmond84]

Des

When you say Aderans is permanent do u mean a one time injection or will we need to get it topped up every few years?

Thanks

Their trials are a ONCE-OFF treatment, there are no follow up injections!

From what I understand, DP cells remain the same throughout your whole life, so in theory there will not be any need for a top up! Then again we may be proven wrong once ppl start using it on a mass scale and we realise that we do need a top up every 10-15 years!

More importantly, my main point was that if there are adverse events associated with it, these may persist for a long time as we don't have a way to remove these cells once they are transplanted!