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[RussellRyan]

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[julia09]

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[allTheGoodNamesAreTaken]

Urgh, well we'll see soon enough then...

[SebaURU]

Don`t forget that Shiseido said in 2005 that its product ADENOGEN was 94% effective for alopecia. And did`t work.

[SebaURU]

Yep it has always been said to be only a few years away but eventually something will work and that 'few years away' claim will turn out to have been accurate. It's possible that we're in that time now, who knows. Hair follicles can only hold so many secrets and they're much better-understood now than they were 20 years ago.

Something else that's encouraging about Histogen is that their founder and CEO, Dr. Gail Naughton, seems to be a serious career woman with an impressive CV, and I'm almost certain I've read about her having brought other working products (unrelated to hair) to market before. She sounds like the real deal to me.

Oh, by the way, the third group claiming a 2018 release is Follica. So we shall see.

I hope you are right. About Dr. Gail Naughton I heard another Dr. saying that in a conference she said that Histogen made hair growth in a scar. And thats not possible because scar is dead tissue.
One thing I would really know is if all this products and treatments that supposed to be launched beyond 2018 would work in people who did hair transplant. In the receptor zone I mean, to gain density.

[allTheGoodNamesAreTaken]

Yes, I saw the same pictures that you mentioned. I still are few. But I agree with your explanation. I hope it works at least one of those options. But since 20 years ago that labs are promising alopecia cure in 3 or 4 years. I think that most of those announcements are for publicity. I hope you are right and the cure will be available in 2018. I doubt it.

Yep it has always been said to be only a few years away but eventually something will work and that 'few years away' claim will turn out to have been accurate. It's possible that we're in that time now, who knows. Hair follicles can only hold so many secrets and they're much better-understood now than they were 20 years ago.

Something else that's encouraging about Histogen is that their founder and CEO, Dr. Gail Naughton, seems to be a serious career woman with an impressive CV, and I'm almost certain I've read about her having brought other working products (unrelated to hair) to market before. She sounds like the real deal to me.

Oh, by the way, the third group claiming a 2018 release is Follica. So we shall see.

[SebaURU]

There's more than one picture available, I don't know if you've been looking at at an old presentation. I've not looked in quite a while but can remember one picture with a blonde woman that had her receded hairline restored, and one where a dark haired man with major loss at the front and on top showed crazy thickening in the after picture, and also there's a close-up shot of a coin-sized region of scalp. It probably doesn't work the same for everyone and they will of course have only shown their best responders, but they don't yet know the optimum dose, or best number of treatments, or how long to wait between successive treatments, or what the final result is after 18 months or 2 years or whatever, or who the best-suited candidates for treatment are.

Something interesting is that there are 3 things now that are being claimed to be released somewhere in the world in 2018 - Histogen, Replicel (via Shiseido), and also one of these topical drugs currently being trialled (can't remember which one now). So I think that at least one of them might have something that works and the other two are worried about it, and they're in a race to get their product out first. And it was Histogen who first came out with this 2018 talk if I'm not mistaken.

Yes, I saw the same pictures that you mentioned. I still are few. But I agree with your explanation. I hope it works at least one of those options. But since 20 years ago that labs are promising alopecia cure in 3 or 4 years. I think that most of those announcements are for publicity. I hope you are right and the cure will be available in 2018. I doubt it.

[allTheGoodNamesAreTaken]

Could be. But what it seems strange to me is that they show their results with only one picture. If the trials the did really works, why don`t the show more pictures. Because the regrowth of hair in a single subject could be by chance and don't necessary means that works in other people.

There's more than one picture available, I don't know if you've been looking at at an old presentation. I've not looked in quite a while but can remember one picture with a blonde woman that had her receded hairline restored, and one where a dark haired man with major loss at the front and on top showed crazy thickening in the after picture, and also there's a close-up shot of a coin-sized region of scalp. It probably doesn't work the same for everyone and they will of course have only shown their best responders, but they don't yet know the optimum dose, or best number of treatments, or how long to wait between successive treatments, or what the final result is after 18 months or 2 years or whatever, or who the best-suited candidates for treatment are.

Something interesting is that there are 3 things now that are being claimed to be released somewhere in the world in 2018 - Histogen, Replicel (via Shiseido), and also one of these topical drugs currently being trialled (can't remember which one now). So I think that at least one of them might have something that works and the other two are worried about it, and they're in a race to get their product out first. And it was Histogen who first came out with this 2018 talk if I'm not mistaken.

[SebaURU]

There are encouraging differences though... one being that both Histogen and Replicel (or rather, Replicel's method, recently purchased by a big company) are both making bold statements, and actions, regarding 2018 release dates in specific countries, as well as commencing further trials soon if not already. Histogen has recently managed to raise millions of dollars too, so that's encouraging. Plus Histogen definitely can regrow noticeable amounts of hair if they have not added fake hair to the scalps in their photographs (ie. if they've faked them, the typical 'different lighting/combing/camera angle' tricks that scams use cannot explain the amount of regrowth their photos appear to show). And those purported results are from a single treatment when multiple ones should presumably do better. And they need to see what happens if they vary the doses. Things are still uncertain and too much hope is dangerous but I don't see any reason to write them off at this moment, just the opposite if anything.

Could be. But what it seems strange to me is that they show their results with only one picture. If the trials the did really works, why don`t the show more pictures. Because the regrowth of hair in a single subject could be by chance and don't necessary means that works in other people.

[allTheGoodNamesAreTaken]

Really? this makes me doubt all . They tell you have wonderful results in their studies and then the lab closed. I 'm doubting Replicel , Histogen etc etc
I am so depressed

There are encouraging differences though... one being that both Histogen and Replicel (or rather, Replicel's method, recently purchased by a big company) are both making bold statements, and actions, regarding 2018 release dates in specific countries, as well as commencing further trials soon if not already. Histogen has recently managed to raise millions of dollars too, so that's encouraging. Plus Histogen definitely can regrow noticeable amounts of hair if they have not added fake hair to the scalps in their photographs (ie. if they've faked them, the typical 'different lighting/combing/camera angle' tricks that scams use cannot explain the amount of regrowth their photos appear to show). And those purported results are from a single treatment when multiple ones should presumably do better. And they need to see what happens if they vary the doses. Things are still uncertain and too much hope is dangerous but I don't see any reason to write them off at this moment, just the opposite if anything.

[SebaURU]

Ya this company is legitimately dead. They liquidated their assets and everything I'm pretty sure, totally defunct. The science didn't pan out. On to the next one.

Really? this makes me doubt all . They tell you have wonderful results in their studies and then the lab closed. I 'm doubting Replicel , Histogen etc etc
I am so depressed

[Trouse5858]

Any news about this? we are already in 2016
Is this similar to Repicel?

Ya this company is legitimately dead. They liquidated their assets and everything I'm pretty sure, totally defunct. The science didn't pan out. On to the next one.

[SebaURU]

Any news about this? we are already in 2016
Is this similar to Repicel?

[NeedHairASAP]

ya'll need to chill out and understand that if anything positive comes out it will be in the news or on the websites. Stop spending 5 hour a day in this thread.

I remain cautiously optimistic as there are reputable folks out there who have also been affected by mpb. They are doing a lot of work and investors are pouring good money in this research, which means someone's gotta be on to something.

I know this won't make everyone happy in here after the new wave of skepticism i just read. But i recommend everyone just take a step back and hit the bars tonight.

In the meantime, i suggest buzzing the hair really short. I did this for the first time 4 days ago to see approximately what i will look like when bald. Well, girls dig it. Seriously, i would have never imagined it. And i don't even have a fully symmetric, well shaped skull. But yeah, definitely much better than i thought, i had my hair like ryan gosling and i wish i could continue to have it that way but, guess what, as long as i look decent i'm good because as it's been repeated a thousand times looks are not all in a man. I got some compliments which makes me feel good and i'm gonna hit the clubs all weekend to see how many phone numbers i can get with the new look. I am optimistic!

So again chill out folks. Stay calm and carry on. If you are really depressed about the new insights on the forum, go out to the bars tonight and have an intense swim tomorrow. Get off the forum for a few days and cool off everyone. And buzz the hair really short, i feel awesome i accepted my self for what i will look like in 2 years and moved on. I don't have the thought in the back of my mind anymore! I'll take propecia twice a week just in case something will come out, and if it doesn't work **** it i already feel good about what i'll look like!

stay calm. Everything is going to be alright....

[UK_]

Stop being so EMO about it, if it comes through good; if it doesn't, life goes on. We'll have to just wait and see what happens, there's nothing else to do.

Yes I mean it could be a lot worse we could be sitting here with **** all to talk about.