CB-03-01 - new antiandrogenic

[Phatalis]

take RU or Prop 3x week?

[Phatalis]

before HST I was a nw3 juts cause my hairline went back. i hid it well enough tho

[Phatalis]

Yeah. diffuse. but i havent had much loss yet. i had a GHO HST for hairline. and now everything else is very slowly starting to go. it JUST started. you cant tell yet but its coming.

[ShookOnes]

would probably be a lot cheaper to 3D print the machine

welp, i need to bridge the gap until CB works or doesnt.

Right now I'm about to try propecia.. but im so ****ing scared.

I'm looking at Hells RU guide and about to try it out.

are you a diffuser? and take it 3x a week, that's what im doing

[Phatalis]

welp, i need to bridge the gap until CB works or doesnt.

Right now I'm about to try propecia.. but im so ****ing scared.

I'm looking at Hells RU guide and about to try it out.

[Phatalis]

Just out of raw curiosity again.. how much are those around.. a rough estimate? it'd be hilarious if somehow we did a "crowd funding" thing and got like a community machine for different areas and delivered CB ourselves lmfao.

Just joking.

[hellouser]

we can't afford those to be able to use CB 03 01. I doubt Cosmo will be able to produce a product that's comparable to hydro electro in topical form, that would take so much time to go through FDA... not to mention the sure genius of converting what a lab machine does to a cream, lol. is this the reason why people using their homemade vehicles have been failing? Not trying to be too pessimistic, I just discovered this CB thread after 2 years of lurking haha..

That, or perhaps the CB everyone's been using is fake. I don't have the answers.

[ShookOnes]

They used hydro electrophoresis... very different from the cheap run of the mill iontophoresis device.

we can't afford those to be able to use CB 03 01. I doubt Cosmo will be able to produce a product that's comparable to hydro electro in topical form, that would take so much time to go through FDA... not to mention the sure genius of converting what a lab machine does to a cream, lol. is this the reason why people using their homemade vehicles have been failing? Not trying to be too pessimistic, I just discovered this CB thread after 2 years of lurking haha..

[hellouser]

Idk. I googled and they make some. Are these machines not the right ones? they were like 500+ pounds or something

They used hydro electrophoresis... very different from the cheap run of the mill iontophoresis device.

[Phatalis]

The machine costs so much, that if you had the money for it just to save your hair, you probably wouldn't care about being bald.

Idk. I googled and they make some. Are these machines not the right ones? they were like 500+ pounds or something

[Phatalis]

The machine costs so much, that if you had the money for it just to save your hair, you probably wouldn't care about being bald.

Thanks hell. youre such an awesome poster.

[FearTheLoss]

You don't know any of this, nor do I think it's even accurate. CB has only just begun preclinical trials for AA(clinical trials take 8 years). I spoke to them a while back and they said that if the acne version proves safe, then it might take a couple years off the testing time for AA. still looking at 5 years or so. Also, they were pretty vehement that the acne version will do nothing for AA. They said the concentration is different and the vehicle is totally different. Which means that we will still be at the same place with it as we are now, until they come out with the aa version (if it works and they ever do). Lotta ifs here, and no way it comes to market that soon. They just filed the IND, and you can't go around saying it's like "rgaine and fin on steroids" when all we have to back that up is one little trial that used iontophoresis, which we can't use anyway. Anyhow a lot of the time these initial trials don't mean squat. RU and other compounds had great initial trials and then failed. Not trying to be negative or say that it won't be a great drug, it might be. But let's stop getting people all hyped up, especially with these bogus timelines.

This is a complete lie. I talked to them less than a month ago and they stated they were already underway with phase II clinical testing for alopecia. You're so negative that your own pessimistic attitude is obscuring your ability to look at facts.

[hellouser]

This might be a rediculous question. But if CB already works miraculously with iontopherorsisisis or whatever... why the **** cant we just like... do that? get treatments with that?

Like.. idk. Can't they make a machine for home use?? Idk.. tell me why im dumb

The machine costs so much, that if you had the money for it just to save your hair, you probably wouldn't care about being bald.

[Phatalis]

This might be a rediculous question. But if CB already works miraculously with iontopherorsisisis or whatever... why the **** cant we just like... do that? get treatments with that?

Like.. idk. Can't they make a machine for home use?? Idk.. tell me why im dumb

[ShookOnes]

this statement makes no sense. They are both used to block DHT. they are testing acne first because it's a bigger and more reliable market. period. It's also easier to treat acne than alopecia, and can be used for women and men. Also you will not be able to use the acne version on your head. Cosmo confirmed this to me a while back, so stop getting people all hyped on the idea. It's a different concentration and vehicle, and you can't just remove the chemical from the cream or something. I doubt CB will even work for alopecia, vehicles are not that complicated and people have been getting no results from this on the black market. Just because it worked with iontophoresis doesn't mean that it will ever work as a topical.

2010, http://www.cosmopharmaceuticals.com/...010-10-06.aspx

Mauro Ajani, Chief Executive Officer of Cosmo Pharmaceuticals, said: “We are extremely pleased with this result. This is the first step towards establishing CB-03-01 as an effective, topically applied anti-androgen and could therefore mark a major breakthrough for all men and women affected by androgenetic alopecia. Currently the only FDA approved anti-androgen for this condition is Propecia..."

True but you're just a guy on the internet criticizing a financially driven billion-dollar company that's trying to knock down propecia and take over the entire market. And they're still progressing with this, 4 years later. i belib