CB-03-01 - new antiandrogenic

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  • Drizzy123
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    Originally posted by mustang2
    Well, if anybody's interested I will be testing CB-03-01 at 7.5% and have I already have my baseline bloodwork here to asses whether it causes HTPA or Adrenal shutdown as it did on 10% of users during phase II.

    I will be using a alcohol based solution per their patent and CB has been tested by UNI lab to confirm purity of 99%.

    I'm not even going to asses hair loss right now as my main concern is my endocrine system. If causing shutdown then this is not a viable solution unless you are on TRT and take DHEA etc...

    I will also try to measure my circulating androgens via a scalp biopsy after a month of use.

    I guess this is the only way to get this done.
    Hi mustang.. any updates on this? Interested if you have any new bloodwork or any positive results to report re: your hair.

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  • doke
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    The problem with cb over ru is that according to the studies on cb you cannot mix it without lab equipment which i looking into buying but it was way too expensive and the dose when cosmo comes to the market will be 7% topical and lower for woman.
    So does Ru which you can mix easily should you start at 5% and then up to 7%? or even like anagenic they have a premade 8%.

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  • stefkampen
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    I feel that CB and RU are very similar in their effectiveness, but with the CB i do not experience any libido issues, like i do have to a certain point with RU

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  • mustang2
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    Originally posted by JamesKing321
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    Can I get a quote?

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  • JamesKing321
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    Many people believe that the cheapest way to move house is to do it yourself but this is just not the case. Man and Van app have a network of drivers in the UK who can provide you with help for the same price as it would cost you to hire a moving van yourself.

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  • iwannakeephair1674
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    Another thing I'm curious about... is that CB-03-01 is steroidal, which I would worry about that effecting the Androgen Receptor in some way to potentially cause an "Androgen Flood" over time (including Testosterone) or cause an upregulation in Androgen Receptors altogether over time. From my understanding, the risk is less likely when a non-steroidal anti-androgen is used.. like RU58841. However, I think I might have heard a long time ago that people that took this had a change in their androgen receptors and the drug no longer worked.. but I can't be certain.

    Lastly, according to Derek from "More Plates More Dates" on YouTube, who takes RU, has said that studies showed that CB-03-01 is a lot weaker than RU. I'm really hoping something comes to market soon though and I never understood clearly why the RU trials just stopped. I think the Topical Anti-Androgen is the last piece of the puzzle to solve hairloss for most guys if you combine all the mainstream treatments and are able to tolerate them.

    1. Finasteride/Dutasteride
    2. Minoxidil + Tretinoin
    3. Microneedling 1.5mm once a week
    4. Lasercomb/Massages
    5. PRP
    6. Ketoconazole 1% or 2%
    7. Strong Topical Anti-Androgen for the Receptors

    I truly believe that would maintain and regrow hair for the vast majority of men, most likely for decades if not for life. The key in my mind is the Topical Anti-Androgen specifically to target the receptors (to protect from both Testosterone & DHT from attaching). If you can have that without the upregulation in Androgen Receptors or any mutation.. you should be able to keep what you have.

    I've been able to maintain and regrow ~15 years of just doing Finasteride/Dutasteride, Microneedling, PRP, Lasercomb... I'd like to add CB if it gets approved although I'm open to RU down the road (but concerned about it's safety).

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  • iwannakeephair1674
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    Originally posted by mustang2
    Well, if anybody's interested I will be testing CB-03-01 at 7.5% and have I already have my baseline bloodwork here to asses whether it causes HTPA or Adrenal shutdown as it did on 10% of users during phase II.

    I will be using a alcohol based solution per their patent and CB has been tested by UNI lab to confirm purity of 99%.

    I'm not even going to asses hair loss right now as my main concern is my endocrine system. If causing shutdown then this is not a viable solution unless you are on TRT and take DHEA etc...

    I will also try to measure my circulating androgens via a scalp biopsy after a month of use.

    I guess this is the only way to get this done.
    Thank you for what you're doing... please keep us posted!

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  • zephyrprime
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    Keep us updated. Do you find that it is better than ru?

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  • mustang2
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    Well, if anybody's interested I will be testing CB-03-01 at 7.5% and have I already have my baseline bloodwork here to asses whether it causes HTPA or Adrenal shutdown as it did on 10% of users during phase II.

    I will be using a alcohol based solution per their patent and CB has been tested by UNI lab to confirm purity of 99%.

    I'm not even going to asses hair loss right now as my main concern is my endocrine system. If causing shutdown then this is not a viable solution unless you are on TRT and take DHEA etc...

    I will also try to measure my circulating androgens via a scalp biopsy after a month of use.

    I guess this is the only way to get this done.

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  • mustang2
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    Well, if anybody's interested I will be testing CB-03-01 at 7.5% and have I already have my baseline bloodwork here to asses whether it causes HTPA or Adrenal shutdown as it did on 10% of users during phase II.

    I will be using a alcohol based solution per their patent and CB has been tested by UNI lab to confirm purity of 99%.

    I'm not even going to asses hair loss right now as my main concern is my endocrine system. If causing shutdown then this is not a viable solution unless you are on TRT and take DHEA etc...

    I will also try to measure my circulating androgens via a scalp biopsy after a month of use.

    I guess this is the only way to get this done.

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  • WangMQ
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    * double post

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  • WangMQ
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    Originally posted by hwezdarik
    I am super curious about test results
    A single test result doesn't mean anything. Kane usually send authentic stuff in group buys but scams on individual buys. You never know what you'll get next time.

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  • Sanchez123
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    Originally posted by joshuk
    only been using it about a month then stopped for 2 weeks as was in hospital so i could not use any, but now im back on it and will give it a solid 6 months and post back results. im not using any other DHT blocking treatment no fin or dut so if it works we will know its the CB
    Hi Joshuk, how is it going?
    I just ordered CB from Wuhan. What kind of vehicle are you using now?

    If not NEO anymore, why not?

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  • RU58841
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    Originally posted by BaldingMetalhead
    There are quite a few people using it on HLH, honestly it gets mixed reports. But considering that most of the guys trying out experimentals are those with too aggressive MPB for finasteride to help, the answer can be - obviously - too aggressive MPB.

    In fact I got mild antiandrogenic sides @ 10mg in Neogenic, which suggests that it's powerful (I'm crazy-sensitive to AAs though, can't even use the S5 cream). So I tried 5mg for 2 weeks, now back on 10mg without sides, and I'm about to bump it up further. This is not the norm though, most guys don't get any sides up to 20-35mg.

    Most guys seem to use it between 15-25mg per day, and we have El_Duterino who is maintaining for 8 months now @ 20mg in Neo. Just make sure you use growth stimulants too (like minox and/or stemox), and a highly penetrative vehicle (Neogenic or eth/pg with high pg content). For those with too aggressive MPB, still can be a good adjunct.

    According to Cosmo's studies, CB is beast. The only concern we may have is the authenticity of Kane's stuff. That's the reason we are going to test it.
    What kinds of side effects did you get from S5 cream?

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  • Sanchez123
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    Hi Guys,
    I am looking for users who are using CB for over 6 months now and still using it. I can't use fin.
    How are your results so far? I hope you can give a small update to help me out.

    Thanks !

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