3rd Procedure with Gho

[JJJJrS]

It’s about how to (realistically) overcome THE indigenous disadvantage of the HST technique. And THE disadvantage is – TIME.

The point is, why should I, for example, wait 4-5 years until I reach my goal, when I KNOW it’s possible to reach this goal in half the time with an “HST 3.0” version?

The HST 3.0 version is, in fact, “hot” – but definitely not unrealistic. As soon as I have gathered together the (existing) science behind this version (including suitable pics/graphics etc), to support my claims – it’s just up to Dr. Gho. I’m going to start a new thread about this “hot” topic in the coming days.

By the way – the “HST 3.0” version is also something that should create a real fair and balanced competition in this industry in general, between cutting edge supporters (you, me etc) and existing dinosaur supporters, so to speak. Because in the very near future, the existing and especially the “smart” dinosaur supporters, will also win (they WILL catch up, based on the dinosaur techniques!); that means, it’s time for Dr. Gho to change the game again (e.g. version 3.0)…and that means, NO BREAK FOR DR. GHO!

I love posts like this Can't wait to read more about it.

HST is already a game-changer but if you can speed up the process, then the possibilities are really limitless ! You've got my hopes up now IM

[clarence]

Are we going to be benefiting from the number of transplanted hairs in the recipient site (for re-use), or will we see some improvement as to predicting the amount of regeneration (either before the procedure, or immediately after), or a combination of these both, perhaps?

[534623]

Can you tell us a little more about this?

It’s about how to (realistically) overcome THE indigenous disadvantage of the HST technique. And THE disadvantage is – TIME.

The point is, why should I, for example, wait 4-5 years until I reach my goal, when I KNOW it’s possible to reach this goal in half the time with an “HST 3.0” version?

The HST 3.0 version is, in fact, “hot” – but definitely not unrealistic. As soon as I have gathered together the (existing) science behind this version (including suitable pics/graphics etc), to support my claims – it’s just up to Dr. Gho. I’m going to start a new thread about this “hot” topic in the coming days.

By the way – the “HST 3.0” version is also something that should create a real fair and balanced competition in this industry in general, between cutting edge supporters (you, me etc) and existing dinosaur supporters, so to speak. Because in the very near future, the existing and especially the “smart” dinosaur supporters, will also win (they WILL catch up, based on the dinosaur techniques!); that means, it’s time for Dr. Gho to change the game again (e.g. version 3.0)…and that means, NO BREAK FOR DR. GHO!

[JJJJrS]

At the moment, I’m working on Dr. Gho’s “HST 3.0” version – at least, hypothetically.

Can you tell us a little more about this?

[didi]

Gc

it looks like you lost about 500 grafts in donor which is not bad considering you have 3000 growing in your now ex bald area

[JJJJrS]

I wouldn't want anyone to think my naturally thin donor region is caused by lack of regeneration! Hopefully IronMan or JJJJrS can come up with some numbers.

I'm also buzzing my hair to #1 every 2 or 3 days, I think it looks better like this!

I'll definitely do a comprehensive analysis of your donor gc. I'm a bit busy with some other things right now, so it might take a little longer to finish.

It seems you ran out of bandwidth on your original FileDen account though, so I don't have access to all your pictures at the moment. I won't be able to do an analysis until those pictures are posted but I have no problem waiting since I'm a bit busy anyway. In the analysis, I'll probably include photos from your:

- 2nd HST procedure - Day 1
- 2nd HST procedure - Day ~14
- 3rd HST procedure - Day 0 (i.e., before picture for 3rd procedure or 9 months after 2nd procedure)
- 3rd HST procedure - Day 1
- 3rd HST procedure - Day ~7/14

I'll try to cover a different area than Iron_Man but basically I think the results of this analysis will be very complete.

[534623]

Well I am very happy first of all that it looks scarless and even more encouraged from your comment. If you get a chance to look please see how much regeneration has taken place and report back, that I would be very grateful of!

This is, at least, just a small undocumented pre-analysis pic of Day –1, the day before having your 3rd HST procedure. But one thing is clear already…

The regeneration-rate after 9 month is - unchanged:
84.9% regeneration versus 15.1% no regeneration.

That means, that none of the “still unclear” extraction sites regenerated. According to this, you can always calculate, that what after 14 days didn’t regenerate, it’s very likely that most of these hairs are gone forever. At least, in your case, and according to this observation area.

If I take all so far known cases together, including my own case, you can say that around 70% (+/-) regenerate within the 1st week, plus additional 10-15% (+/-) after another week. Due to the fact, that most patients (including myself) report “itching” in the donor area up to 4 weeks after the procedure, there is still regeneration ongoing here or there in the donor area. For example, with my handheld video-microscope, I still could find a few regeneration sites (short visible hairs within extraction sites) even in week 3 and week 4. Furthermore, if you just can see, for example, 1 single hair within an extraction site during the 1st week, a 2nd or 3rd hair within such extraction sites is visible sometimes much later. I think the reason for this, is, that if there are 2-hair or 3-hair extractions, the amount of extracted follicle tissue of each follicle of this follicular unit is, of course, always somewhat uneven.
It appears, that the same happens, of course, analog in the recipient site; that means, that a follicle of e.g. a 2-hair graft, which is more “fleshy” than the 2nd follicle within this graft/unit, this follicle will regenerate faster than the other one, because it has more stem cells attached than the other one. That means, that in the donor area, as well in the recipient area, the growth-speed of every follicle within the extraction sites as well as implantation site, is mostly somewhat uneven; until every follicle has the same amount of all the necessary cells again. At least, that’s what I could observe so far. And I have lots of close-up photos of all this, what I have just reported.

At the moment, I’m working on Dr. Gho’s “HST 3.0” version – at least, hypothetically.

[gc83uk]

How are you able to afford 3 separate procedures with Gho? Curious.

I run an online business, been lucky in that aspect!

[gc83uk]

Hi hairy man,

as always – this photo is also superb. In my opinion, you’re still the #1 HST photographer – there is no doubt.

Anyway, I don’t know what you yourself can see, but what I can see, without making a square/frame and encirclements of extraction sites – I’m speechless …

Well I am very happy first of all that it looks scarless and even more encouraged from your comment. If you get a chance to look please see how much regeneration has taken place and report back, that I would be very grateful of!

Kiwi, my donor has always been very thin, the side we are monitoring does seem thinner than other areas, but I think what is important is how much regeneration has taken place. I wouldn't want anyone to think my naturally thin donor region is caused by lack of regeneration! Hopefully IronMan or JJJJrS can come up with some numbers.

I'm also buzzing my hair to #1 every 2 or 3 days, I think it looks better like this!

[clandestine]

How are you able to afford 3 separate procedures with Gho? Curious.

[Kiwi]

Hi hairy man,

as always – this photo is also superb. In my opinion, you’re still the #1 HST photographer – there is no doubt.

Anyway, I don’t know what you yourself can see, but what I can see, without making a square/frame and encirclements of extraction sites – I’m speechless …

It looks quite thinned out to me - but scarless!!!

[534623]

A picture of the monitored donor area on day 8.

Day 8 donor area

Hi hairy man,

as always – this photo is also superb. In my opinion, you’re still the #1 HST photographer – there is no doubt.

Anyway, I don’t know what you yourself can see, but what I can see, without making a square/frame and encirclements of extraction sites – I’m speechless …

[gc83uk]

A picture of the monitored donor area on day 8.

Day 8 donor area

[Arashi]

Nope. There is an unknown guy () on a Dutch hairloss forum ...

... who claims that all the guys you mentioned are just Aliens and that they just represent "the best case scenario" and that HASCI/Gho just make bold claims.

Again, IM, if you want to know what I say in Dutch on Dutch forum, just ask me, really, I'd be happy to translate. This is the 2nd time you're using google translate and come up with a wrong translation and accuse me of all kinds of stuff, just because you're translation is wrong. 'doorgroei' is not 'hergroei', the first means continuos growth and the second is regrowth. Obviously I was talking about continuous growth and the 80% I was referring to was not the regrowth number but the continous growth number. The discussion we were having in Dutch was regarding the continous growth/shedding, not the regrowth. We were not even talking about the donor region at all, but the recipient region.

I think I've shed about 60% of the transplanted hairs right now and am hoping they'll start growing back in 3 weeks when I reach my 3 months ...

[534623]

I mean, I paid the normal rate - € 7,900 for 1400 grafts.

By the way - just in case you losers do not trust me ("IronMan is a paid Gho-shill..."):

http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/calculation-iron-man.jpg

...in addition, as you can see in the photo - no way to escape paparazzis.