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  • gc83uk
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    Originally posted by LMS
    GC, what kind of density are you going to be looking for in the hairline?

    I know Dr Gho can do 50-60 cm2 with regular transplantation methods however thats only roughly 100-120 hairs per cm2 (at 2 hairs a graft average) which is a far cry from the average Caucasian density of 200 hairs per cm2.

    I'm hoping it'll be possible to maybe increase density from 50 grafts cm2 to 100 grafts per cm2 with the injection method. It'd be great at least in the hairline.

    Also totally off topic, I remember reading somewhere that you make a living online. I also run an online business and it is how I'm obviously going to be funding my procedures with Gho.

    What sort of industry are you in? I do paid traffic to CPA offers.
    Well I've kept the forelock area, so I have that higher density already, but I'm pretty sure Gho is not going to be able to achieve 200 hairs per cm2 (100 grafts per cm2) for anyone. It's the window peak areas where I'll need filling in.

    A question back to you, can any transplant surgeon do 100 grafts per cm2 do you know? If so who? If not what is the current maximum that you know of? I've heard H&W can do 70cm2, but I haven't heard of more than that.

    CPA is like form filling / purchase right? I spend a fortune in cpc mainly adwords. Nothing personal, but I don't want to go into specifics about what I do because it's so niche and I don't want to really disclose who I am, at least not yet. Maybe once I'm done.

    Do you have anything booked with Gho? What's your situation?

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by Vox
    Nothing special. He just says that they can help in NW5/6 class since they use the DHT-insensitive area.
    I think he "highlighted" the safety-zone area part, what actually means "IF we always just use the safety-zone and do not extract OUTSIDE the safety zone" - what they acually do. That's what I think what he meant.

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  • Vox
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    Originally posted by 534623
    Btw - my English is a little bit shitty, so I do not understand everything ...

    Spencer Kobren speaks with Dr. Coen Gho, about the current status and efficacy of his proprietary hair restoration technique, Hair Stem Cell Transplantation (HST). For daily updates on the world of hair loss follow Spencer Kobren on Twitter @spencerkobren Subscribe: iTunes (audio) | iTunes (video) | Zune (audio) | Zune (video) | RSS (audio) |...


    Starting at 39:40>>> what is Dr. Gho saying concerning NW5 or NW6 guys and concerning their safety zone in the donor area?
    Nothing special. He just says that they can help in NW5/6 class since they use the DHT-insensitive area.

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by Vox

    I remember having read somewhere about multiday FUE mega-sessions for high NW'ers. Can you, or anyone, confirm and summarize the pros and the cons of such procedures? If they are for real, why hasci does not do the same with HST?
    Btw - my English is a little bit shitty, so I do not understand everything ...

    Spencer Kobren speaks with Dr. Coen Gho, about the current status and efficacy of his proprietary hair restoration technique, Hair Stem Cell Transplantation (HST). For daily updates on the world of hair loss follow Spencer Kobren on Twitter @spencerkobren Subscribe: iTunes (audio) | iTunes (video) | Zune (audio) | Zune (video) | RSS (audio) |...


    Starting at 39:40>>> what is Dr. Gho saying concerning NW5 or NW6 guys and concerning their safety zone in the donor area?

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  • LMS
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    GC, what kind of density are you going to be looking for in the hairline?

    I know Dr Gho can do 50-60 cm2 with regular transplantation methods however thats only roughly 100-120 hairs per cm2 (at 2 hairs a graft average) which is a far cry from the average Caucasian density of 200 hairs per cm2.

    I'm hoping it'll be possible to maybe increase density from 50 grafts cm2 to 100 grafts per cm2 with the injection method. It'd be great at least in the hairline.

    Also totally off topic, I remember reading somewhere that you make a living online. I also run an online business and it is how I'm obviously going to be funding my procedures with Gho.

    What sort of industry are you in? I do paid traffic to CPA offers.

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  • gc83uk
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    Originally posted by maxhair
    Yeah, I'm the only bald guy on here looking for concise proof. Great point.
    Knew you'd come round to agreeing.

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  • maxhair
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    Yeah, I'm the only bald guy on here looking for concise proof. Great point.

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  • Vox
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    Originally posted by gc83uk
    Vox, tough to answer, but if you've seen my recipient photos after my 1st and 2nd HST you'll be able to what 30-35 grafts per cm2 looks like.

    I'll be adding some new photos this week showing my entire area including my 3rd HST which is probably around 30-35 grafts on a completely slick area total approx 85-100cm2. So as you can imagine its far from thick, but when buzzed to number 1 which is 3mm then it looks ok. Anyway I'll let you be the judge of that in a couple of days.

    Reason why I haven't uploaded any new recipient photos since immediately after the procedure is because initially the area is a bit scabby, but it's all cleared now so photos will look better.

    It's worth noting the new photos from the recipient will be minus about 25% of the grafts, I've shed a bit unfortunately as it's been about 3 weeks now. The real representation will be in about 3 months from now.
    It's OK gc83uk, take your time. I will wait. I have already lost what I was to lose from my hair (or so I think), I want just to get an idea of what my head will look like if I decide to take the plunge. After reading such forums for years, it seems to me that the only viable and future proof solutions that work right now are FUE and HST.

    Originally posted by gc83uk
    Also you could achieve 6000 - 7000 within 3.5 years (4 treatments, 9 months apart).
    I remember having read somewhere about multiday FUE mega-sessions for high NW'ers. Can you, or anyone, confirm and summarize the pros and the cons of such procedures? If they are for real, why hasci does not do the same with HST?

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by JJJJrS
    Why not? I could use a little bit of income on the side Maybe maxhair can pay us $1000 after we analyse his results?
    hmmrrm...maybe it's ok for you, but I think I would charge him twice as much. Okay, perhaps without labelling every single encircled extraction site with numbers, he can get a discount - so he has just to pay $1,999.99 instead of.

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  • gc83uk
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    Originally posted by maxhair
    ... the world is waiting.
    Nobody is waiting but you.

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  • maxhair
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    ... the world is waiting.

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  • gc83uk
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    Originally posted by maxhair
    Yappity yappity. Get on with it man. Some of us are bald as a motherf*cker.
    Just lose the attitude yea and we'll talk properly. ok?

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  • gc83uk
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    Originally posted by Vox
    I am thinking now about more difficult cases like mine. Say you have to cover 200 cm^2 relatively sparsely with 30-35 grafts per cm^2. This is 6000-7000 grafts, feasible in 4-5 years if the donor regeneration works after that many extractions. Do you (or anyone) have an idea how this would look like buzzed down to ~0.5-1.0 cm? What is the average number of hairs per graft with this method? Sorry if it was posted somewhere and I missed it.
    Vox, tough to answer, but if you've seen my recipient photos after my 1st and 2nd HST you'll be able to what 30-35 grafts per cm2 looks like.

    I'll be adding some new photos this week showing my entire area including my 3rd HST which is probably around 30-35 grafts on a completely slick area total approx 85-100cm2. So as you can imagine its far from thick, but when buzzed to number 1 which is 3mm then it looks ok. Anyway I'll let you be the judge of that in a couple of days.

    Reason why I haven't uploaded any new recipient photos since immediately after the procedure is because initially the area is a bit scabby, but it's all cleared now so photos will look better.

    It's worth noting the new photos from the recipient will be minus about 25% of the grafts, I've shed a bit unfortunately as it's been about 3 weeks now. The real representation will be in about 3 months from now.

    Also you could achieve 6000 - 7000 within 3.5 years (4 treatments, 9 months apart).

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  • Vox
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    Originally posted by didi
    Cool, Maxhair can volunteer and get 50 grafts test done, Spencer Kobren can sponsor it, its only about 700 bucks

    Gho cant say No to Spencer or else it will look like he is hiding something


    It will finally solve HST mystery



    JJ can you talk to spence about this, its brilliant idea
    I concur. I am very curious to see such results.

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  • maxhair
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    Yappity yappity. Get on with it man. Some of us are bald as a motherf*cker.

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