The Ironman Procedure

[Arashi]

Would be helpful if we knew how many 1s 2s and 3s were extracted

Sure. Gho seems to be the only clinic where they don't tell you that. That in combination with people reporting 'thin' recipient is only a logical basis for doubts/suspicion ..

[didi]

Look, I have better things to do than waste my time with this. There are at least 5 patient documentations by now that show 'regrowth'. What we don't know yet if these are just failed extractions growing back or REAL regrowth. Your pictures are perfect for finally clearing this up. I'd have no problem in helping out and am willing to do the counting if you supply the pictures. If you're not interested in that, that's perfectly fine as well of course.

Would be helpful if we knew how many 1s 2s and 3s were extracted

[Arashi]

Yeah? With what exactly? Looking for at least 1-2 sources on the internet?

Ok you're obviously not interested in finding out if your 'regrowth' is really regrowth or not. Your case would have been perfect for either denying or confirming the whole 'regrowth' doubts AND denying/confirming the suspicion that most Gho grafts are just single grafts.

I just don't see what your case, like you're presenting it now, does add to everything that's already out there.

[534623]

Look, I have better things to do than waste my time with this.

Yeah? With what exactly? Better things than looking for at least 1-2 sources on the internet?

[Arashi]

How do you know that "we" is reading this thread?
And how do you know that "we" has "seen enough regrowth pictures by now" because "they're all over the internet from different sources" ?

Can you show "us" please at least 1-2 of these sources, which "we" has seen all over the internet?

Look, I have better things to do than waste my time with this. There are at least 5 patient documentations by now that show 'regrowth'. What we don't know yet if these are just failed extractions growing back or REAL regrowth. Your pictures are perfect for finally clearing this up. I'd have no problem in helping out and am willing to do the counting if you supply the pictures. If you're not interested in that, that's perfectly fine as well of course.

[534623]

"We" is anybody reading this thread, which also includes German people without manners.

How do you know that "we" is reading this thread?
And how do you know that "we" has "seen enough regrowth pictures by now" because "they're all over the internet from different sources" ?

Can you show "us" please at least 1-2 of these sources, which "we" has seen all over the internet?

[Arashi]

By the way - WHO exactly is "we" ?
You mean, you and the other six dwarfs in the Netherlands?

"We" is anybody reading this thread, which also includes German people without manners.

[534623]

I mean we've seen enough ...

By the way - WHO exactly is "we" ?
You mean, you and the other six dwarfs in the Netherlands?

[Arashi]

What's the problem? Start counting.
Sorry, but my head isn't two-dimensional. How bad ...

The quality of this picture is perfect for counting but you'd need to supply overlapping pictures that show the whole area. Preferably in such a way that the focus part of the pictures overlap (cause counting in the non-focus part is a lot harder).

[534623]

Upper-Strip-Scar-View
http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/...-Scar-View.jpg

What's the problem? Start counting.
Sorry, but my head isn't two-dimensional. How bad ...

[Arashi]

Feel free to start counting ALL extraction holes at least in all those photos, I already provided/posted.
Let me know your numbers. Thanks in advance, because that would save me some time.

I would gladly help out. If you have several shots that overlap and could serve as the basis for this, then I'll start counting

[534623]

This is all very nice and all, but not sure what you're trying to accomplish ?

Because MY PERSONAL REPORT ABOUT MY PERSONAL HST has nothing to do with
1) your procedure nor with
2) any other HST report out there.

What we do NOT have seen before is a combination of pictures from which we can count the total number of extracted hairs. If this number is very close to the transplanted graft number THEN we'll know that the regrowth in the pictures is REAL regrowth and not just failed extractions growing back.

Feel free to start counting ALL extraction holes at least in all those photos, I already provided/posted.
Let me know your numbers. Thanks in advance, because that would save me some time.

[Arashi]

Also, there is still some skepticism, at least on the Dutch board, regarding the amount of double and tripple grafts transplanted (some people think Gho focuses on single grafts). Your pictures are of high enough quality to also count that and maybe put an end (or confirm) those doubts ...

[Arashi]

I couldn't find any "shock loss hairs" in the water, nor any hairs from the grafted follicles in the recipient area - so far so good.

I think I didn't lose any hairs in the first week. I started shedding after that. By week 3 I think I had lost around 50%. I'm now at week 5 and am still shedding, but not so much anymore. I think I still have around 40% of the hairs.

On the plus, it seems some hairs are already growing back ..

[Arashi]

This is all very nice and all, but not sure what you're trying to accomplish ? I mean we've seen enough regrowth pictures by now, they're all over the internet from different sources, albeit yours are the best by far.

What we do NOT have seen before is a combination of pictures from which we can count the total number of extracted hairs. If this number is very close to the transplanted graft number THEN we'll know that the regrowth in the pictures is REAL regrowth and not just failed extractions growing back.