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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by 534623
    Hey clarence,
    check this nice photo out …



    Guess what - I got such nice strip-scars at a point in my life...
    Strip-Area-Day-5 (for comparison)


    Right-Ear-View-Day-5


    And finally, a somewhat zoomed photo ...

    Test-Day-5


    As you can see, there is pretty much dandruff (shedding of dead skin cells from the scalp) going on at the moment. Before having the photo shooting, I washed my head still carefully (and still without rubbing or touching the grafts or drying the head by rubbing the head with a towel thereafter) with head & shoulders anti-dandruff shampoo (provided by HSCI) and with a lot of just showering thereafter after applying the stuff - dandruff is still there, because there is a lot going on at the moment, especially in the donor area.
    Furthermore, I always inspect carefully the flushing water after every head wash - so far, I could find zero, zilch, nada in the water. That means, I couldn't find any "shock loss hairs" in the water, nor any hairs from the grafted follicles in the recipient area - so far so good.
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  • JJJJrS
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    Amazing pictures IM!

    It seems like the first signs of regeneration are occurring. Looking forward to documenting your case in the following days. Hopefully FileDen won't cause you too many problems.

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  • gc83uk
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    ah the fucidin cream of course, that explains it!

    Any chance of you posting a percentage of your current regrowth tomorrow or even if there isnt much regrowth yet, then at least upload the 50 odd circles your monitoring?

    I would do it myself, but I'm working long hours atm and I reckon your twiddling your thumbs at home whilst recovering lol.

    BTW I really miss people challenging HST, seems like almost everyone is convinced and it's all your fault!

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by gc83uk

    I can also see some strange spots of grey on some of the hair shafts, is that just grey hair? I never thought of grey hair starting like that!
    Ahhh, now I know what you mean!
    No, I think these "strange spots of grey" are just some remnants of the Fucidin creme, which I applied the last time 1 day before. Actually, I applied this creme just once at all, but NOT on day 1 to day 2 after the procedure (as suggested), instead of, on day 3, due to the strip-scar-graftings. Contrary, I couldn't apply Minoxidil on the strip-scar-grafts, due to extractions wounds.
    But I think, so far, everything works as expected - so far.

    By the way ...
    Today, I thouched the first time with my finger-tips carefully the front area - ohhhhhhhhhh, what a feeeeeeeeling ...

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by gc83uk
    Excellent photos Iron Man, almost brings a tear to my eye

    Will you be doing a count of how many hairs out e.g 50 extraction sites have shown regrowth?

    Depending on how detailed you want to be, you could even show a line-graph, number of days on the x-axis vs % regrowth on the y-axis.
    I understand what you mean. Basically, almost EVERYTHING is possible - including such a graph, which shows the percentage (%) of how many hairs emerage at the skin surface after how many days and/or hours. And with the help of the video-microscope, even which kind of regrown grafts (1-hair, 2-hair etc).

    Originally posted by gc83uk
    I can also see some strange spots of grey on some of the hair shafts, is that just grey hair? I never thought of grey hair starting like that!
    Sure, but at the moment mainly just within a 1-3 cm strip right above the ears - you can see this clearly in the uploaded FileDen macro-photos. Damn, I'm getting old ...

    I have just seen a new video on Dr. Gho's website - Dr. Gho is 47 (according to the techs and Dr. Mozart), but it seems that the guy doesn't get old.

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  • gc83uk
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    Excellent photos Iron Man, almost brings a tear to my eye

    Will you be doing a count of how many hairs out e.g 50 extraction sites have shown regrowth?

    Depending on how detailed you want to be, you could even show a line-graph, number of days on the x-axis vs % regrowth on the y-axis.

    I can also see some strange spots of grey on some of the hair shafts, is that just grey hair? I never thought of grey hair starting like that!

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  • 534623
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    Tell me, what exactly you guys want to see ...

    With the video-microscope, I could even produce a video from the WHOLE donor (1 non-stopping stream slowly from the left ear to the right ear or so), as well as from the recipient area.
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  • JJJJrS
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    Originally posted by 534623
    Just for example:



    This is gc's ORIGINAL photo - Day-6.

    Where is extraction wound number "1" ? Or number "24" ?

    And WHERE is the reference area (blue square) at all?
    Even when you know today, where to look - have fun ...
    I remember when I tried to verify your analysis of gc83uk's photos some time ago, even with the outline of the area marked, it was still difficult at times to count the hairs. I can't imagine how tedious it must have been for you to find the exact area each time.

    For your case, I think the analysis will be much easier. The angles seem to be more consistent among the different photos and the black reference points should help greatly. As long as you can keep the hairs short, counting them will be simple.

    If the photos are consistent and reference points are marked, then any person following the analysis will easily be able to verify it, either by inspection or by counting the hairs also. By simplifying the analysis, the results are much more impressive for the average person because they can clearly see, without much trouble, how the analysis was conducted.

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  • 534623
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    Houston, we have a problem … FileDen says:
    Oppps...This user is out of Bandwidth!
    Bandwidth Reset is in 3 days.
    Right-Ear-View-Day-4


    And finally, a somewhat zoomed photo of Day-4 …

    Test-Day-4


    So we have to wait 3 days, until you can make again macro-/high resolution views.
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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by 534623
    Just for example:



    This is gc's ORIGINAL photo - Day-6.

    Where is extraction wound number "1" ? Or number "24" ?

    And WHERE is the reference area (blue square) at all?
    Even when you know today, where to look - have fun ...
    I think you know what I tried to tell you ...

    Without 1) outlining a clear defined "observation area" (blue, green, red, yellow square or whatever) and without 2) marking OR encircling each and every extraction wound, and in addition 3) labeling them with numbers (for quick orientation/comparison etc) - regeneration or not?

    gc's case, without doing exactly all this - especially doubters would still claim "I can't see/compare anything!" or "I can only see nice healing ...!" or "doesn't look different to after having normal FUE!" ...

    Here we have such a case - Tobban, the young HST guy from Sweden ...

    Full resolution - BEFORE having HST extractions ...


    Full resolution - immediately AFTER HST extractions ...


    Full resolution - 5 WEEKS AFTER having HST extractions ...


    Regeneration or not?
    Without any doubts - he already HAD (and still has) at least 80% donor regeneration.

    But where is the (real visible) proof?

    Show me the proof ...

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by JJJJrS

    That would be ideal. Although it's very easy to identify points now, it will be difficult when the extraction points heal.
    Just for example:



    This is gc's ORIGINAL photo - Day-6.

    Where is extraction wound number "1" ? Or number "24" ?

    And WHERE is the reference area (blue square) at all?
    Even when you know today, where to look - have fun ...

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  • JJJJrS
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    Originally posted by 534623
    By the way ...
    Reference - Day 3

    ... what the hell do you mean with the white "Reference" squares??
    I mean, there is nothing to see, what could serve as Reference-POINT.
    If you look at day 1 and day 2 pictures, you'll see some points that look like birthmarks close to a thick three-hair follicular unit. That's what I've tried to use as a general reference point. In day 3 it's harder to see because it's hidden behind hair. I'm also not sure if these marks are actually birthmarks or something else like blood etc. But the thick three-hair follicular unit is definitely the same in all three pictures.


    Originally posted by 534623
    Mayby I will make tomorrow (before I take the Day-4 photos) a clear black dot with a marker in this area - should help a lot in the coming days.
    That would be ideal. Although it's very easy to identify points now, it will be difficult when the extraction points heal.

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by JJJJrS

    I know you have some type of USB microscope Iron_Man. Maybe later on, you can do a small comparison between normal donor hair, recipient hair, and regenerated donor hair in terms of diameter and apperance.
    huh huh, good idea! Sure, I can do this.

    By the way ...
    Reference - Day 3

    ... what the hell do you mean with the white "Reference" squares??
    I mean, there is nothing to see, what could serve as Reference-POINT.

    In gc83uk's case, I had absolutel NOTHING as "Reference-Point" - zilch, zero, nada. No birthmark, no nothing in his shaved extraction area.

    So I did the following:
    I used the BIGGEST extraction wound (it is the number 1), which should serve as marker/reference point at least for 7 days or so, before the wound completely contracts. This worked indeed (I could always find this wound quickly) - but just for 7 days. Thereafter, even this bigger wound (until today, no idea why this wound was bigger) disappeared. Day 10 has been a horror to find the reference AREA at all. It took me minimum 1 hour just to find the reference area again, especially, when the photo/gc's head is rotated somewhat, contrary to all the other days before.

    For now, I simply use these first 3 vertically positioned extraction holes straight above my ear (you can see them next to the upper right corner of your white reference squares). Mayby I will make tomorrow (before I take the Day-4 photos) a clear black dot with a marker in this area - should help a lot in the coming days.

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  • JJJJrS
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    I've posted new reference point pictures for anyone who wants a general starting point for a hair count. This time the pictures are much smaller in size (2-3 MB instead of 15-20 MB ). The small scar I was originally using has already healed so I'm no longer including that as a reference point either.

    Reference - Day 1
    Reference - Day 2
    Reference - Day 3

    I'm very excited to see what happens over the next few days and weeks. The pictures are so clear that the analysis will be conclusive I feel.

    I know you have some type of USB microscope Iron_Man. Maybe later on, you can do a small comparison between normal donor hair, recipient hair, and regenerated donor hair in terms of diameter and apperance.

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  • Arashi
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    Originally posted by 534623
    I got such nice strip-scars at a point in my life,
    Which are great as reference points right now It's going to be easy to count the total number of holes like this.

    Also, did you ask them how many 1,2 and tripple grafts they extracted ?

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