The Ironman Procedure

[didi]

1500 holes in donor area would not be too hard to count,

why not do that???

[Arashi]

Right. And what extractly told Dr. Gho in the 1st interview Spencer Kobren concerning what's the MAXIMUM of HOLES they make and WHY it's not advisable to make more holes?

What the drug addict is trying to pretend since weeks on at least on 3 hair loss forums and with hundreds of useless posts, is, that Kristel, "his doctor" made far more than 3200 holes on the back of his head, to get the 1600 HST grafts for his ugly recipient area. And now we want to know, whether or not Kristel indeed did it. That's the point.
But the drug addict from Holland, is simply UNABLE to ask her this simple question. No way! I, or you should know this - for him. Sure.

And I know you just can't get your head around it (try getting it out of your stinking arse for ONCE), but I'm not claiming ANYTHING. I'm just mentioning that I, like everybody else except you, experienced that they drilled a LOT more times than they succesfully extracted grafts. I just want to get to the bottom of this. It is YOU who claims all kind of stuff.

[Arashi]

BTW, Schweinhund, just out of curiosity: you mentioned you were planning to visit the red light district. Did you finally lose your virginity at age 45 ? I'd be so happy for you. Really, you deserve it.

[Arashi]

Right. And what extractly told Dr. Gho in the 1st interview Spencer Kobren concerning what's the MAXIMUM of HOLES they make and WHY it's not advisable to make more holes?

What the drug addict is trying to pretend since weeks on at least 3 hair loss forums and with hundreds of useless posts, is, that Kristel, "his doctor" made far more than 3200 holes on the back of his head, to get the 1600 HST grafts for his ugly recipient area. And now we want to know, whether or not Kristel indeed did it. That's the point.
But the drug addict from Holland, is simply UNABLE to ask her this simple question. No way! I, or you should know this - for him. Sure.

GC83UK has sent her an email, because you didn't believe me last them when I quoted her answer, so why would you believe me this time. Something got so badly wired inside your head that you have a lot of difficulties to think straight. I think this is the legacy of massive amfetamine injections among German soldiers during WW2.

[534623]

if they do pluck out unsuccessfull extractions then arashi n c5000 would have quite a few grafts taken out, Gho prbbly run out of petri dishes...thts lot of wounds to heal

Right. And what extractly told Dr. Gho in the 1st interview Spencer Kobren concerning what's the MAXIMUM of HOLES they make and WHY it's not advisable to make more holes?

What the drug addict is trying to pretend since weeks on at least on 3 hair loss forums and with hundreds of useless posts, is, that Kristel, "his doctor" made far more than 3200 holes on the back of his head, to get the 1600 HST grafts for his ugly recipient area. And now we want to know, whether or not Kristel indeed did it. That's the point.
But the drug addict from Holland, is simply UNABLE to ask her this simple question. No way! I, or you should know this - for him. Sure.

[c5000]

if they do pluck out unsuccessfull extractions then arashi n c5000 would have quite a few grafts taken out, Gho prbbly run out of petri dishes...thts lot of wounds to heal

that is a lot of wounds, which explains why they took grafts from so high in my donor, seemed to be well outside of the "safe zone"

[534623]

I think Schweinhund means that they're removing *HAIR* out of the unsuccesful extraction.

Sorry, but at least I know the difference between "hair" and follicle(tissue).

[Arashi]

if they do pluck out unsuccessfull extractions then arashi n c5000 would have quite a few grafts taken out, Gho prbbly run out of petri dishes...thts lot of wounds to heal

I think Schweinhund means that they're removing *HAIR* out of the unsuccesful extraction. It wouldn't make sense to go back in an remove part of the graft. The bigger part of the follicle is left, the easier it regrows.

[didi]

if they do pluck out unsuccessfull extractions then arashi n c5000 would have quite a few grafts taken out, Gho prbbly run out of petri dishes...thts lot of wounds to heal

[534623]

there are 2 clickers, one count TOTAL number of extractions and the other one is for grafts that are actually tweezed, successfull ones...the difference is 'failed extractons'..

Bravo! He learns fast, sometimes even the correct shit - because this is CORRECT - at least almost, because they "tweeze" even the unsuccessful grafts - because without plucking them out, they wouldn't know it is an unsuccessful graft. If you don't pluck out all your girlfriend's ... ah... forget it.

[Arashi]

Of course, maybe they TRY to extract ALL hairs but sometimes just fail. Who knows, maybe it was the work of the assisant in whom I don't have much faith left anyway ...

[Arashi]

Didn't I just explain in my previous posts today, that my technician told me, that they ALWAYS extract/pluck out - suitable, or not. Always!
.

And didn't I just explain that I saw hairs growing back at DAY 1 !?!? Does it sound more logical to you that these were just hairs cut of at the scalp level or do you think these are new hairs, coming out of a regenerated follicle ? Well, what am I even asking, who knows what goes on in the head of an autistic psycho.

[534623]

Gc

can you shoot them an email about failed extractions, do they come out or stay in scalp, after 2 years of debating we still dont know basic things abt hst

these failed extractions were so new to me, when i first heard abt it i was like wtf

ermm, excuse me, do you speak English?

http://www.hasci.com/uploads/downloads/dad01225-0ceb-4a30-90c4-771ed900f25aHSI%20-%20Artikel_Gho%20Neumann.pdf

Do you understand the content of this paper?
Do you understand what is meant in the paper with "unsuitable incomplete follicular units" and "suitable follicular units"?

No? WHERE ELSE should they explain all these technical details? WHERE? Here on the baldtruthtalk like Nigam?

Didn't I just explain in my previous posts today, that my technician told me, that they ALWAYS extract/pluck out - suitable, or not. Always!
I couldn't find with my video-microscope a wound, where there is still a graft in it.

[didi]

there are 2 clickers, one count TOTAL number of extractions and the other one is for grafts that are actually tweezed, successfull ones...the difference is 'failed extractons'..


if you could take a look at displays of these 2 clickers you d know exact figures,
n c5000 say they didnt let him see it...thats worrying a bit, whats a big deal, he is paying big bucks and imho patient is entitled to know these numbers

[aim4hair]

Guys,
Plz stop with this german-netherland racist talk!! This thread will serve as great source for anybody intrested in HST, so let's keep the discussion civilized.

IM,
I hope you are able to delete all the fighting posts between you and arashi just to keep this thread focused straight on the point.