The Ironman Procedure

[gc83uk]

But why then doesn't he want to post proof ? he always tells others to 'show me proof',but he can't show us proof himself ?

He's already posted the initial photos though, stupidly I didn't download them. jjrs have you got the originals which you edited with a marked zone?

His fileden account has exceeded its bandwidth, so I'm not sure that criticism is fair.

[Arashi]

I think IM said he didnt have failed extractions ,

means he should have around 1500 holes in his donor,

But why then doesn't he want to post proof ? he always tells others to 'show me proof',but he can't show us proof himself ?

[didi]

I think IM said he didnt have failed extractions ,

means he should have around 1500 holes in his donor,

[gc83uk]

I'm sure he has regrowth by now, otherwise i would be really worried. But without knowing the amount of drilled extractions, what does it mean ?

I'll tell you one thing for a fact. If 100% of the extractions in a sample area are showing regrowth, then that'll mean success and failures have shown 100% regeneration in this particular area.

You could argue that one sample area is not enough, but one sample area from each person showing the same results is enough.

[gc83uk]

Iron Man, can you please upload the photos to a new fileden account or just post them in the thread, no big deal in doing that.

I'll go through them all tonight and also do my own analysis if you can put them up.

Thanks

[Arashi]

IM, how are the pictures like today? Is the bandwidth back to normal on your FileDen account?

I think you said you noticed regrowth yesterday. As soon as you post your newest pictures in high-resolution, I'll be able to do a quick analysis and we can compare our results.

I'm sure he has regrowth by now, otherwise i would be really worried. But without knowing the amount of drilled extractions, what does it mean ?

[JJJJrS]

IM, how are the pictures like today? Is the bandwidth back to normal on your FileDen account?

I think you said you noticed regrowth yesterday. As soon as you post your newest pictures in high-resolution, I'll be able to do a quick analysis and we can compare our results.

[gc83uk]

Do we know of anyone else having the procedure done now or early Jan?

If your reading this and not a member yet then please join the discussion!

[Arashi]

Arashi, the only thing about the 1,2,3 thing is my case is HSI and they can only do about 700 per day, I don't really want to prolong the procedure or use up time because of Rolf has to separate each grafts of 1,2 and 3.

Last time I asked Rolf if most of my hairs were 1 hair grafts, because I had a consultation I had with HDC used the camera to analyse my donor and HDC told me most of my hairs are 1 and 2 hair grafts, I don't think they could find any 3 hair grafts. My hair is fine, thin and straight.

Rolf confirmed most were actually 2 hair and slightly less 1 hair, I think there was hardly any 3 hair grafts.

If it's no trouble for him then I'll ask him if he can do it for me, we'll see what happens.

Ok great. Good luck with your procedure mate.

[gc83uk]

Arashi, the only thing about the 1,2,3 thing is my case is HSI and they can only do about 700 per day, I don't really want to prolong the procedure or use up time because of Rolf has to separate each grafts of 1,2 and 3.

Last time I asked Rolf if most of my hairs were 1 hair grafts, because I had a consultation I had with HDC used the camera to analyse my donor and HDC told me most of my hairs are 1 and 2 hair grafts, I don't think they could find any 3 hair grafts. My hair is fine, thin and straight.

Rolf confirmed most were actually 2 hair and slightly less 1 hair, I think there was hardly any 3 hair grafts.

If it's no trouble for him then I'll ask him if he can do it for me, we'll see what happens.

[JJJJrS]

I think someone should open a new thread where we discuss the issue of failed extractions/drills and the responses of the doctors at HASCI.

That way this thread can be focused on Iron_Man's procedure and pictures.

[didi]

GC

Next time you have HST push hasci to extract only 2s and above....screw singles, go for big ones, make them hunt for top grafts

[gc83uk]

Ok, email sent, hopefully we'll have an answer by tomorrow !

Good stuff, hopefully we'll have a fairly accurate outcome between both answers. Seeing as they both work in the same office I'm sure they will be discussing what nut cases we are lol

[Arashi]

Oh, And GC83UK, also DO please ask them how many 1s, 2s and 3s they extracted !

[gc83uk]

I don't know why they count failed ones.

I personally believe failed extractions are removed, otherwise why would there be a section in the petri dish if they were not removed?

I'm sure this is a question Arashi can send to Krystal. Unfortunately I had already sent my email to Deborah before this question cropped up.

I think when a failed extraction takes place, it is exactly that, an extraction, but what comes out is not enough to warrant enough tissue to grow in the recipient area.

I know c5000 thinks the failed extractions are still in his head (no pun intended), but in reality I believe they are in your head and also partly removed. The good news is the part that has stayed in your head is fine and will continue growing and probably emerge a couple of days before any of the regrowth from 'successful extraction sites'. There isn't really any bad news in terms of the failed extraction sites.

It's difficult to make head or tail of it, because we're mostly guessing.

Did you manage to take a decent photo c5000 or did you give up with all that?