The Ironman Procedure

[gc83uk]

But again, I really don't get what the fuzz is all about. I mean, isn't it only logical that failed extractions have a WAY better regrowth ratio (next to 100%) AND grow back first ?

Yes that great. But your also suggesting the successful ones which we have documented after 1/2 weeks could be ALL failed. That's what the fuss is about.

[Arashi]

I believe you, but the answer she gave you in that email is terrible. I'm surprised you never emailed back because using words like 'often' is just not conclusive especially when you have heard and read Gho saying he regrowth after a week.

Why didn't you query that at the time?

I'm not sure what you're saying. Her answer just made a lot of sense to me. Doesn't it to you ?

[Arashi]

Right, and therefore Dr. Gho explained your "unsuccessful extractions" a long time ago in is paper ...

http://www.hasci.com/uploads/downloads/dad01225-0ceb-4a30-90c4-771ed900f25aHSI%20-%20Artikel_Gho%20Neumann.pdf

... even with a PHOTO of such an "unsuccessful graft"!
Even with COUNTS of the unsuccessful grafts!

Great paper ! But again, what are you're trying to say ?

[gc83uk]

Patient confidentiality ? What's the confidentiality if I am stating myself what she has told me ? Look, if you really don't believe me, just ask Kristel. You have my permission

I believe you, but the answer she gave you in that email is terrible. I'm surprised you never emailed back because using words like 'often' is just not conclusive especially when you have heard and read Gho saying he regrowth after a week.

Why didn't you query that at the time?

[534623]

You really don't get it, eh. Get your ugly head out of your fat ass for once and TRY to understand that not everyone here swallows everything that Gho states like sweet pie. Some people actually USE their heads for thinking and want to know FACTS.

Right, and therefore Dr. Gho explained your "unsuccessful extractions" a long time ago in his paper ...

http://www.hasci.com/uploads/downloads/dad01225-0ceb-4a30-90c4-771ed900f25aHSI%20-%20Artikel_Gho%20Neumann.pdf

... even with a PHOTO of such an "unsuccessful graft"!
And even with detailed COUNTS of the unsuccessful grafts!
Really EVERYTHING - there is absolutely nothing new about this issue - NOTHING!

[Arashi]

But again, I really don't get what the fuzz is all about. I mean, isn't it only logical that failed extractions have a WAY better regrowth ratio (next to 100%) AND grow back first ?

[Arashi]

Let's just wait and see what she has to say on it first.

But what's the use, if you quote her response email, just like I did, Nazi Schweinhund will just say you're making it up (unless it's Gho-positive of course).

[Arashi]

I can't do that pal, they'll just say patient confidentiality etc.

Let's just wait and see what she has to say on it first.

Patient confidentiality ? What's the confidentiality if I am stating myself what she has told me ? Look, if you really don't believe me, just ask Kristel. You have my permission Or just send her the quote and let her confirm if this is something that she actually told a patient.

[gc83uk]

Please, do email Kristel as well and ask her if I quoted her post or not, since Nazi Schweinhund seems to think I'm making it up and doesn't want to email her to verify it (because he actually KNOWS it's the truth).

I can't do that pal, they'll just say patient confidentiality etc.

Let's just wait and see what she has to say on it first.

[Arashi]

Ah well I've already emailed Deborah Smaal, she knows her stuff, so I'll post whatever she says here

Please, do email Kristel as well and ask her if I quoted her post or not, since Nazi Schweinhund seems to think I'm making it up and doesn't want to email her to verify it (I'm sure that that is because he actually KNOWS it's the truth).

[Arashi]

Because there is no confirmation for your "email post". And why don't you simply ask her AGAIN?
Why should I ask her? I have nothing to do with your doctor - or your pretended "HST procedure".

What do you want me to ask her again ? If it was a joke what she told me ? If she made it up ? YOU are the one who doesn't believe what she's saying. I don't have ANY reason to doubt here myself.

[gc83uk]

Nope, It was Kristel. You can reach her at: k.vanherwijnen@hasci.com

Ah well I've already emailed Deborah Smaal, she knows her stuff, so I'll post whatever she says here

[534623]

LOOOOL. What part exactly makes you think I said that ?

Because there is no confirmation for your "email post". And why don't you simply ask her AGAIN?
Why should I ask her? I have nothing to do with your doctor - or your pretended "HST procedure".

[Arashi]

Ha that was a negative assessment if I ever saw one. I'm fairly sure Iron Man has taken multiple photos of his head and even recorded a video showing the extractions from ear to ear.

Iron man if you could upload that to a website such as vimeo.

What do you think of Gho's paper showing regrowth after 1 week?

You had to admit it's unlikely that the regrowth I had after 1 week is ALL or mostly unsuccessful extractions. I had a 2nd area also monitored and it also came over 80%.

You even said yourself that you didn't keep count of extraction ratio. So although 80% regrowth seems good, without knowing the actual drill amount we just don't know if it's 50% regrowth, maybe 30% or no regrowth at all.

[Arashi]

Also she said in your email to you 'within a week' right?

And "These are also often the follicles which during the early removal of the grafts were cut"

Often? Not all then?

Was it Deborah you emailed about this? I'll email her right now about it.

Nope, It was Kristel. You can reach her at: k.vanherwijnen@hasci.com