a second HST session in september

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  • cocacola
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 222

    #91
    Thats the sad part about hst is the per procedure graft limitations. If they could do like at least 2.5k average would have been a whole different game. 2 operations and you would have 5k grafts which is not bad at all. at this moment for 6k grafts you need 4 operations. Thats at least 3 years, if you are a nw 1-3 ok its not a problem. However if your nw 4-6 then its a long journey!

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    • sausage
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 1063

      #92
      Originally posted by didi
      if you are NW6 then receiving 1400 hst grafts is like drop in the ocean,
      it will take many years n you gonna need TONS of grafts especially 1 and 2 hair grafts, type HST gives you.


      id wait for Pilofocus or dr nigams doubling,
      That's why I am thinking of getting 1400 grafts to fill in a hairline then get SMP.

      Whether this happens or not I don't know, my feelings about different hair restoration methods changes regularly because there are a lot of negatives to all of them.

      Whether Dr Nigam's doubling works.....hmmmm, I can only hope but I am very skeptical about it.

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      • cocacola
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 222

        #93
        What norwood r u right now?

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        • sausage
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 1063

          #94
          Originally posted by cocacola
          What norwood r u right now?
          A delightful NW6 which sucks complete squirrels nutsacks.

          If this hadn't happend to me, I would be with at least a reasonable looking girl right now, probably married....

          But instead I feel like women would reject me cos of my hair....

          get the violin out.

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          • hellouser
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 4419

            #95
            Originally posted by sausage
            A delightful NW6 which sucks complete squirrels nutsacks.

            If this hadn't happend to me, I would be with at least a reasonable looking girl right now, probably married....

            But instead I feel like women would reject me cos of my hair....

            get the violin out.
            You feel like? Dude, its guaranteed that they do. Women, like men, are shallow skanks. It's human nature. Its bullshit, but nothings going to change that.

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            • Brock Landers
              Junior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 24

              #96
              going bald

              I heard a joke somewhere..........Going bald is like God telling you "Now try and get laid".

              With that said I am NW4, approaching NW5, but I buzz down so don't look so bad, also been told I have a nice face which probably helps. With that all said, when I had hair, getting girls was easy, they just came up to me. Now they don't really any more, I have to go after them, but I find that I get higher quality girls now, because since I have been forced to be the aggressor, I only get what I go after instead of what comes easily to me.

              Going bald definitely makes things tougher, but you can certainly get with attractive women. Also I've found that some of the really good looking girls I have been with that didn't care at all about hair, had bald dads! To them it was a non-issue because they grew up with a bald role model.

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              • sausage
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 1063

                #97
                I am not aiming for density, ideally I am looking for a receded temple look, with thinning, a typical balding shaved down look similar to Wesley Sneijder and Freddie Lunjberg, see photos below.

                Basically avoiding the slaphead look and giving me some sort of framing to my face. I still have a little hair on top but not much. I currently keep at buzzed.

                Wesley Sneijder: This buzzed to a grade 1 and the more bald areas covered in SMP would look good.


                Freddie Lunjberg:


                RIGHT.....what can I achieve with these first 1400 grafts with GHO........look at these images below (I AM REFERRING TO THE TOP TWO IMAGES).....draw an imaginary line from receded temple to receded temple, I think I could achieve that frontal section at that density, maybe a bit more...feathered back....getting thinner as it goes back to blend into the rest of my thinning scalp and then I'll get SMP at a similar density into the rest of the scalp. I still have some hair to give texture to the crown and will possibly go for a 1400 graft spattering in future.



                Why is this a great idea for me:

                FUT is out of the question for me, FUE is too expensive and I am not a good candidate, repeated Gho treatments is expensive and would take years, SMP alone IMO does not look realistic enough, especially hairlines.

                A mixture of FUE and SMP IMO would work as I still think you need the 3D texture hair gives but I think the SMP would need to be put in sparsely so not to heavily outweigh the hair. The majority of the transplanted hair should be placed in the hairline as this frames your look, and is the point where people look at you, whereas the top of the head is not so important as people are not looking at the top of your head unless you are sitting down. Although I think with a spattering of hair mixed in with SMP the crown will look fine.

                I think this is now my plan..........what concerns me the most is that the gho clinic may not like my idea.

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                • Vox
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 298

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Brock Landers
                  Also I've found that some of the really good looking girls I have been with that didn't care at all about hair, had bald dads! To them it was a non-issue because they grew up with a bald role model.
                  This is very interesting and I will add my own experience. I told one day my family (wife + teen daughter) that I am considering a HST and explained the specifics. Just to see what they say. Guess what, the one who reacted immediately was my daughter. She did not want to see me with hair (!) because I have been bald since when she was 2-3 old, so she has no memory of hair on my head. Well, my wife also was negative, for her own reasons.

                  Incredible in my mind but true, and in line with the theory of the bald role model. I guess this makes a big part of how this curse survived in our days.

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                  • sausage
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 1063

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Vox
                    This is very interesting and I will add my own experience. I told one day my family (wife + teen daughter) that I am considering a HST and explained the specifics. Just to see what they say. Guess what, the one who reacted immediately was my daughter. She did not want to see me with hair (!) because I have been bald since when she was 2-3 old, so she has no memory of hair on my head. Well, my wife also was negative, for her own reasons.

                    Incredible in my mind but true, and in line with the theory of the bald role model. I guess this makes a big part of how this curse survived in our days.
                    I don't think daughters care how their dads look, I am not surprised they would see a hair transplant as unnecessary, an unnecessary waste of money, and unnecessary risk.......daughters would be worried about a father going under the knife.

                    I don't know how old you are but it does surprise me that anyone over 50 would bother getting a HT but it obviously effects them too, even though they are most likely settled down, not expected to have hair.....

                    Older generations getting upset about hairloss puts it into perspective how horrendous it is for people in their teens and 20's who have to deal with this shit.

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                    • cocacola
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 222

                      In all my respect to everyone who suffers from advanced hairloss at a young age i dont think its the main thing that prevents people from finding a significant one. I see tons of baldies with girls and i know personally many guys with full heads that have difficulty getting girls, and they are not physically ugly at all. Its mostly about your attitude. Sure looks count a lot too and hairloss will probably take off a point or two from you, but you dont become a 0/10.

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                      • sausage
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 1063

                        Originally posted by cocacola
                        In all my respect to everyone who suffers from advanced hairloss at a young age i dont think its the main thing that prevents people from finding a significant one. I see tons of baldies with girls and i know personally many guys with full heads that have difficulty getting girls, and they are not physically ugly at all. Its mostly about your attitude. Sure looks count a lot too and hairloss will probably take off a point or two from you, but you dont become a 0/10.
                        It takes a massive chunk out of me. You can tell what people think about you as blokes take the piss all the time. Hairloss makes a massive difference to how someone looks. When I had hair I used to be told I looked like Elijah Wood who is not a bad looking guy.....now I get told I look like Moby.

                        I mean, who the **** wants to go out with Moby.

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                        • didi
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 1360

                          Bald guys have it much tougher in dating game, no one can deny it, hair loss takes off 2 points easily. If you are say 5 (average looking),hair loss makes you 3...3 doesn't cut it these days,

                          its even worse to be nw5/6 in 20s, younger girls wont date shiny bald guys, of course there are exceptions but you knw what im talking abt,

                          if you are 7 with hair, baldness turns you into 5...you become very average looking guy with no hair..its all about making good first impression, be it online, on the street or bar...


                          im not surprised so many guys go crazy about losing hair and end up spending so much money on HTs and other fixes

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                          • sausage
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 1063

                            Originally posted by didi
                            Bald guys have it much tougher in dating game, no one can deny it, hair loss takes off 2 points easily. If you are say 5 (average looking),hair loss makes you 3...3 doesn't cut it these days,

                            its even worse to be nw5/6 in 20s, younger girls wont date shiny bald guys, of course there are exceptions but you knw what im talking abt,

                            if you are 7 with hair, baldness turns you into 5...you become very average looking guy with no hair..its all about making good first impression, be it online, on the street or bar...


                            im not surprised so many guys go crazy about losing hair and end up spending so much money on HTs and other fixes
                            I would say it takes more than '2' off. it at least takes 50% off your looks.

                            I just wrote a new thread about an experience I had last night which pretty sums up everything.

                            I went out to town last night. A girl started a conversation with me and my mates, she basically in the bluntest of ways said I was not good looking enough for another bar in town which I said I went to earlier in the night......yes, I should have shafted a sharp object up her vagina at that point!!!!!! she did not say it in a nasty tone, but she said it, she pretty much said she wasn't good enough for that pub as well......and to be honest she wasn't attractive but I wasn't an asshole like her and did not say that to her.....weirdly I think she was coming onto me as she was asking me to come to a bar where she worked and got a bit flirty.....stupid bitch, abusing me then cracking onto me, I dunno what the **** she was playing at.....

                            Whereas in the past, when I had hair, I had attractive girls come up to me.......now I am very bald........an ugly girl straight out gives me shit cos I'm bald...

                            It is a complete 360 degree turn from where I was when I had hair...

                            THERE IS A MASSIVE DIFFERENCE IN HOW PEOPLE PERCEIVE YOU AS A BALD MAN.

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                            • elvispresley
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 115

                              imho :

                              gho: is to expensive

                              nigam : still no results but very open (is why i like him because he goes against the common MONEYCENTERED style of others doctors),
                              so also if after 6,10 months will fail , he still did a good job by going against the flow.

                              we have so many options coming and we will find something quicker ONLY if the doctors start to put away their MONEYCENTRISM (or proud or whatever) like Nigam is doing .

                              anyway i repeat the most important thing is to be UNITE and SHARING .
                              all the bad comments from users go against the final goal.

                              we can do it.

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                              • didi
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 1360

                                Originally posted by elvispresley
                                imho :

                                gho: is to expensive

                                nigam : still no results but very open (is why i like him because he goes against the common MONEYCENTERED style of others doctors),
                                so also if after 6,10 months will fail , he still did a good job by going against the flow.

                                we have so many options coming and we will find something quicker ONLY if the doctors start to put away their MONEYCENTRISM (or proud or whatever) like Nigam is doing .

                                anyway i repeat the most important thing is to be UNITE and SHARING .
                                all the bad comments from users go against the final goal.

                                we can do it.

                                Dr Nigam doesn't want to share his technique with Indian surgeons,

                                I though he would be more open about it, I don't want him to become like Gho and refuse to share it


                                Then when you talk to these Indian doctors they think Dr Nigam is bogus



                                dr Mwamba/Cole should look into this asap

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