Hidden Gem -> MSM/Vit C & TRX2 - a fin alternative?

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  • Ginkosama
    Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 40

    One month in : I am not hairier, well body hair may be longer but that's it. Nothing dramatic.

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    • Jairus
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 191

      Originally posted by Jairus
      Gutted

      I was wondering how MSM and vit c can hold on to what you have if they dont have DHT suppressing abilities? What mechanism allows them to be beneficial?

      Thanks

      J
      Anyone?

      Hello? McFly?

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      • b0urna
        Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 43

        Originally posted by Irishamerica
        hey did you just pour a few grams of the msm into your conditoner ?? i have also heard of people putting it in a water bottle with destilled water and rinsing there hair in it ..Has any tried this ?
        Yup. Just threw in 10grams give or take into my bottle of conditioner, il see how it goes, and its cheap enough not to worry even if it doesn't make an impact. Would be good to see more people trying it topically, without other treatments involved, and with different vehicles / concoctions.

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        • MrBlonde
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 261

          Originally posted by b0urna
          Yup. Just threw in 10grams give or take into my bottle of conditioner, il see how it goes, and its cheap enough not to worry even if it doesn't make an impact. Would be good to see more people trying it topically, without other treatments involved, and with different vehicles / concoctions.
          So you just crushed the pills down or dissolved them in water first before addding them to your conditioner?

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          • b0urna
            Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 43

            Originally posted by MrBlonde
            So you just crushed the pills down or dissolved them in water first before addding them to your conditioner?
            Nah, iv got pure MSM powder, mixed it up with some water then used a funnell to pour it into the bottle, gave it all a good shake and hey presto

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            • Jcm800
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 2614

              Is there any evidence of MSM being used topically actually working? Or it just a random experiment?

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              • b0urna
                Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 43

                Originally posted by Jcm800
                Is there any evidence of MSM being used topically actually working? Or it just a random experiment?
                Iv read a few random posts on forums about it being used topically, I'm sure there's scientific papers floating around, but I'm not going to post links to anything I don't understand haha so yea maybe more of an experiment, fitting for this sub forum then. One thing to note, even though iv only been applying for around 2 weeks, you can really notice the cosmetic effect on hair instantly (after the first wash). I have fairly long (obv longer in the non MBP affected areas) curly hair that curles up tightly giving an appearance of short hair, but this makes it straight and slightly wavey, and appears visibly longer. Anyway nothing to note about hairloss change as yet, too early to notice changes orally or topically.

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                • Cob984
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 526

                  Starting week 9 of trx2 and 11 of msm/vitc and i havent seen anything, no improvement or stabilization whatsoever, spending 50 euros a bottle with a messed up exchange rate, i mean come on, you are ****ing bankrupting me whitfield but i have no choice, i hate this industry

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                  • bananana
                    Inactive
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 524

                    Originally posted by Cob984
                    Starting week 9 of trx2 and 11 of msm/vitc and i havent seen anything, no improvement or stabilization whatsoever, spending 50 euros a bottle with a messed up exchange rate, i mean come on, you are ****ing bankrupting me whitfield but i have no choice, i hate this industry
                    sorry to hear that mate. be patient, maybe changes will occur in the future.
                    ps, where do you live? I've found a GREAT and cheap supplier from germany.

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                    • Cob984
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 526

                      Originally posted by bananana
                      sorry to hear that mate. be patient, maybe changes will occur in the future.
                      ps, where do you live? I've found a GREAT and cheap supplier from germany.
                      India, of trx2?
                      Just started me 125 mg dose of oral saw palmetto extract a day, its minimal i know but it will give me mental peace if nothing else,

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                      • bananana
                        Inactive
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 524

                        Originally posted by Cob984
                        India, of trx2?
                        Just started me 125 mg dose of oral saw palmetto extract a day, its minimal i know but it will give me mental peace if nothing else,
                        Oh, no sorry - I meant supplier of msm. But shipping to india would probably be a big figure...

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                        • gutted
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1397

                          Originally posted by Jairus
                          Gutted

                          I was wondering how MSM and vit c can hold on to what you have if they dont have DHT suppressing abilities? What mechanism allows them to be beneficial?

                          Thanks

                          J
                          i speculate it addresses the real reason people bald (excess pgd2 & its related excess enzymes).

                          The source for that pgd2 is speculated to be DHT -> PGD2, which may be ONE source, i believe there are multiple sources for this excess pgd2 which msm/C addresses.

                          we will not know if this stops mpb unless a scientific experiement is done which i doubt will ever happen.

                          Im increasingly believing MPB is a skin disorder.

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                          • Cob984
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 526

                            skin disorder? ffs , hairloss is a skin disorder if u dont have mpb

                            in any case, anyone else having success in terms of holding firm on this combo? dont mention the less itch and other 'invisible', anything visual from people in it over 10 weeks?

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                            • fred970
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 922

                              2 Weeks in and still no reduction in oil production.

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                              • b0urna
                                Member
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 43

                                Originally posted by Cob984
                                in any case, anyone else having success in terms of holding firm on this combo? dont mention the less itch and other 'invisible', anything visual from people in it over 10 weeks?
                                10 weeks isn't long enough to notice any visible effects from any hairloss treatments man. I'm contemplating cutting my hair short, the sides of my head has longer and thicker hair than the top and its starting to look abit silly, plus it will make any results from this clear to see, though I'm hesitant as I'm unsure if it will ever grow back. Not expecting to see a hair improvement anytime in the next few months, but a decrease in shedding would give me confirmation that somethings working.

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