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  • bananana
    Inactive
    • Feb 2012
    • 524

    Originally posted by gutted
    guys....
    Thanks for this mate. I really believe in your words therefore, I'm staying on board. I've seen only positive changes so far, there is no reason not to believe this will continue further.

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    • MrBlonde
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 261

      Originally posted by gutted
      If you have diffuse hair loss throughout the scalp, im confident you will see a reversal. First changes are seen at the crown.
      I am diffuse throughout the scalp Gutted and its worrying, I am 3 months in and getting thinner whilst on this regiem. I shed mainly at the hairline too.

      I would like to get an idea of exactly how aggressive and advanced your MPB was and just to make sure it was MPB and not TE or something else you could have recovered from with help of this program.

      Where you thinning all over the scalp before you addressed you MPB with this program? because you said this before

      no when i started the combo, there was no signs of thinning. Its only when i started other supplements that caused the thinning. That has slowly reversed itself over the last few months.
      What I'm getting at is how can you say this will reverse diffuse thinning when you say were not experiencing it before this program? It was only a supplemental reaction that caused it and was easily reversable.

      Why did you start this if there was no thinning?

      In this exchange you seem to contradict the above and say you were thinning before this treatment

      Originally Posted by MrBlonde View Post
      So you were not thinning before this treatment or you were? I cant remember.
      yes i was thinning in a diffuse manner BECAUSE of mpb, most visible on the left side.

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      Originally Posted by MrBlonde View Post
      Did you hair feel flat, limp or thin at all at any stage and would you say your hair is thick now? How was your crown looking?
      yes it was flat, thin, and limp, because of the thinning that had occured because of mpb. Not AFTER i started this combo. I never witnessed this. My crown was not "bad" but i could tell i was starting to lose density in this region, but not noticeable to the naked eye.
      Can you clarify please.

      You also say your hair is shedding but at a normal level

      yes i have a normal shedding pattern and this is all over, hairline included. Its normal to lose hairs.

      No my hairline has stopped receeding, there has been no recession for over a year now. Im confident its staying put. I know on the right side i can see density improving, i also expect this to happen on the left although in a few months time.
      So your hairline is not receeding and your not thinning but you may not have ever been or had a problem in this area, i'm not sure. If you were not thinning and are saying that it will work for those that are you are taking a big risk with other ppls hair.

      We are talking about diffuse thinning and miniturization as the same thing here yes?

      I am just trying to get some clarity on your level of MPB and was it really a problem as it is for the rest of us or were you at an early recoverable stageother and some key issues I meant to address before but never did. I am not saying you are lying to us. I know when you are replying to a lot of posts you may contradict yourself accidently.

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      • ammin
        Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 74

        Mr Blonde,

        Trust me. Get the acell + Prp done. I dont care which doctor, Just get it done. I went to Dr Hitzig for the procedure and I think it has the potential to change my life and keep me stress free for atleast the next two years, maybe longer, at which point I will get another set of injections.

        Its 3500 $ with the motto release form. Motto release form are documents that you sign that allow Dr Hitzigs office to showcase your results without identifying you. In other words your pictures will not reveal your face or obscure them.

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        • ammin
          Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 74

          acell prp is the most effective treatment I have tried after propecia. I had gynecomastia so I couldn't continue with propecia.

          Incidentally, I believe even TRX 2 isn't working for me , let alone MSM and Vit C. It might be effective as an adjunct.

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          • MrBlonde
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 261

            Originally posted by ammin
            Mr Blonde,

            Trust me. Get the acell + Prp done. I dont care which doctor, Just get it done. I went to Dr Hitzig for the procedure and I think it has the potential to change my life and keep me stress free for atleast the next two years, maybe longer, at which point I will get another set of injections.

            Its 3500 $ with the motto release form. Motto release form are documents that you sign that allow Dr Hitzigs office to showcase your results without identifying you. In other words your pictures will not reveal your face or obscure them.
            I live in Ireland Ammin so I'm not sure it its available here or in the UK. Actually I don't even know what it is? I'm going to do some reading on it right away though.

            Can you give me the general jist of it and if there are any risks or sides associated with it?

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            • ammin
              Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 74

              No sides unless you are allergic to pork which very few people are.

              Just a few injections filled with your own blood mixed with growth factors , vitamin D and platelet rich plasma, over 90 minutes and thats it.

              You should in most cases be able to keep the hair that you have for the next two years at the very least. Thats the been the clinical experience at Dr hitzig and Dr Greco's office and other "Board Certified Surgeons" who are offering this treatment. THis includes Dr Bauman, Dr Craig Zierring, Dr Glenn Charles and others

              No maintenance or upkeep required. You can ofcourse add adjuncts to compound results.

              I am staying on TRX 2 and revivogen.

              DOnt mentally F**ck yourself over by scouring the internet for imaginary side effects to the procedure experienced by lunatics and phalcrophobes of which I am one.

              IMO this treatment is as safe as safe can be

              For your due dilligence go to the websites of these surgeons and perhaps call in on spencer and ask for his opinions.

              Most of us dont know squat about regenerative medicine

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              • ammin
                Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 74

                IMO This treatment has turned out to be a failure. Gutted can have as many retrospective revisions to his theory but I will not encourage anyone to rely on this combination alone.

                I have discovered it is not that difficult to compose long elaborate post espousing new hair loss regimens.

                I say this with all due respect to gutted. You should either rely on the opinions of Board certified physicians or on extensive photographic evidence.

                Neither does gutted have any evidence nor does he have the credentials.

                To conclude, I dont think this thread deserves to be in the cutting edge future treatments section and should have a caveat emptor sign attached to it..

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                • b0urna
                  Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 43

                  Originally posted by ammin
                  IMO This treatment has turned out to be a failure. Gutted can have as many retrospective revisions to his theory but I will not encourage anyone to rely on this combination alone.
                  I think we should at least give this a fair chance, as we do with any supposed hairloss treatment. Personally I'm sticking it out for 12 months, if my hair continues to go downhill i'll consider other options, but probably accept defeat, else if my hair hasn't changed or improves then it's a massive success.

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                  • bananana
                    Inactive
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 524

                    Originally posted by b0urna
                    I think we should at least give this a fair chance, as we do with any supposed hairloss treatment. Personally I'm sticking it out for 12 months, if my hair continues to go downhill i'll consider other options, but probably accept defeat, else if my hair hasn't changed or improves then it's a massive success.
                    Exactly! My thoughts also mate, if my hair doesn't get worse - that means it's working! I'll be utterly happy with just maintaining.

                    But already I would say this - if it lowers itch, lowers oil, makes your skin 10 years younger, strengthens nails, erases wrinkles etc - it must do SOMETHING good for the hair.

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                    • fred970
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 922

                      It increase my oil production in my case, someone can explaine this?

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                      • ammin
                        Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 74

                        The combo's effectiveness is supposed to manifest over an extended period of time in such a vague manner -reduce itch and oil production :/ - that a lot of participants might mistakenly consider it a success.

                        These are the kind of shenanigans Astrologists use to convince the larger community of their validity - Yes I did experience financial misfortune last year OR I am susceptible to mood swings, whereas this predictions could apply to anyone.

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                        • bananana
                          Inactive
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 524

                          Originally posted by ammin
                          The combo's effectiveness is supposed to manifest over an extended period of time in such a vague manner -reduce itch and oil production :/ - that a lot of participants might mistakenly consider it a success.

                          These are the kind of shenanigans Astrologists use to convince the larger community of their validity - Yes I did experience financial misfortune last year OR I am susceptible to mood swings, whereas this predictions could apply to anyone.
                          Ok, you might have a point. But listen, I had terrible itch all over and I could scrape TONS of oil off my scalp - it was almost visible how it clogged my hair, it was all over.

                          And that is one of the biggest signs of MPB if there ever was one.
                          I even posted a photo of my hair 8 months ago on this site (i'll try to find it).
                          It looked like shit!

                          Now its all gone! Like drinking aspirin to "kill" the cold. For me, it is a sign it is working. Period.

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                          • Jcm800
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 2614

                            A member of my family commented that I have a bald patch today, talk about deflated. Started thinking about jumping on fin, doubt I'll take it but **** hope this regime kicks in soon or it's doom and gloom time for me.

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                            • bananana
                              Inactive
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 524

                              edit: i found the thread, but the photo has been deleted

                              Anyways, I tried EVERYTHING, from dutasteride to chinese mushrooms for MPB, nothing ever relieved me of itch and abundant amounts of oil. And I gave everything at least 6 months.

                              This has - in a very short timeframe, therefore, I'll stick with it no matter what anyone says. It works for me.

                              Or I have magical power and I suffer from such a strong delusion it has gave all those results.

                              Either way I'm sticking with it.

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                              • bananana
                                Inactive
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 524

                                Originally posted by Jcm800
                                A member of my family commented that I have a bald patch today, talk about deflated. Started thinking about jumping on fin, doubt I'll take it but **** hope this regime kicks in soon or it's doom and gloom time for me.

                                ughhh, i hate when that happens! I use toppik or nanogen for that reason.
                                Especially now, this christmas time, gatherings etc.. Hang in there.

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