Hidden Gem -> MSM/Vit C & TRX2 - a fin alternative?

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  • Jcm800
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 2614

    It's my centre parting that's becoming more noticeable, definitely widening. But this combo is all I've got. Onwards with the programme..

    PS gutted, you're not at all convinced minoxidil would work better along side this treatment, no?

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    • Jcm800
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 2614

      Oh and gutted - thanks for putting up with a few of us all whining and putting this treatment down to some degree. I hope this time next year we'll all be encouraging folks to try it too..

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      • gutted
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 1397

        Originally posted by Jcm800
        It's my centre parting that's becoming more noticeable, definitely widening. But this combo is all I've got. Onwards with the programme..

        PS gutted, you're not at all convinced minoxidil would work better along side this treatment, no?
        it will work great, although you wont know which is working and which isnt. Using minoxidil is better than supressing dht.

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        • Jcm800
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 2614

          Originally posted by gutted
          it will work great, although you wont know which is working and which isnt. Using minoxidil is better than supressing dht.
          at this stage, if someone told me washing my hair with piss, and rubbing horse manure on my head gave me results, but only one was working - i'd carry on doing both.

          But in my case, i dont know if minox is viable, didnt do much for me before - just wondered if combined it might boost it's efficacy

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          • gutted
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 1397

            Originally posted by Jcm800
            Oh and gutted - thanks for putting up with a few of us all whining and putting this treatment down to some degree. I hope this time next year we'll all be encouraging folks to try it too..
            lool its not a problem. I can understand hair loss is pretty shit to have, and because this is experimental and not proven in any way some of you are sceptical if it works or not.

            If the combo doesnt work for a person, then simply what they wanted the combo to do, didnt materialise, (although i still maintain it works for everyone if folllowed as directed but time is really needed here) Its important to set your expectations on what you want it to do.

            There are variables to consider also - some will percieve it to work others will not - the people who are on dht blockers or recently dropped them are the people who will most likley think this isnt working but in fact was "working" all along they just hadnt witnessed the visibile side of things just yet. Its very important to use it without any kind of dht suppression.

            I also need to point out those who wrecked their hair by going on finerstride/dht blocking will require a minimium of 12-18 months to see changes in thier hair - every 3 months you should see density increasing exponentially (once off dht blocking). I advise taking pictures for your own reference, every 3 months.

            There is nothing more to do than play the waiting game. Dont get impatient and start blocking dht again as you will be back to square one.

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            • gutted
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 1397

              Originally posted by Jcm800
              at this stage, if someone told me washing my hair with piss, and rubbing horse manure on my head gave me results, but only one was working - i'd carry on doing both.

              But in my case, i dont know if minox is viable, didnt do much for me before - just wondered if combined it might boost it's efficacy
              lool.

              the only way to find out is try it and see what happens, it could work.

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              • Jcm800
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 2614

                in my case im not ready to contemplate Fin, dont think i ever will be. Too much of a gamble. So, really it's this combo alone, or with Minox for me - if that fails - it's short back and shine time for me.

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                • gutted
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1397

                  Originally posted by Jcm800
                  in my case im not ready to contemplate Fin, dont think i ever will be. Too much of a gamble. So, really it's this combo alone, or with Minox for me - if that fails - it's short back and shine time for me.
                  whatever treatment you decide to use, stick with it & give it time.

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                  • StayThick
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 624

                    Originally posted by Jcm800
                    in my case im not ready to contemplate Fin, dont think i ever will be. Too much of a gamble. So, really it's this combo alone, or with Minox for me - if that fails - it's short back and shine time for me.
                    JCM: if there is any treatment I would beg you to avoid it would be FIN. I was so desperate 1.5 years ago I took the plunge and it was the most body altering poison I ever consumed in my life.

                    I won't go into detail on the horrific sides, but it took me 8 months to get back to 85%, and I'm one of the few lucky ones. I suspect I'll be at 100% once I hit a full year post FIN. I don't mind being the Guinea pig, stick to your guns..avoid that at all costs.

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                    • Jcm800
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 2614

                      Tks StayThick - i won't be taking it, i sit on the fence and observe ppl's posts about it, too risky, hope you make a full recovery dude. I know a guy in real life thats been on it for about 5 years, he's a wreck - but won't accept it's down to the Fin. Dr's can't help him, he's lost his girlfriend, jobs, is on anti-depressants etc, and his hair never really benefited far as i can see - his exp alone frightens the life outta me.

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                      • Jairus
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 191

                        Gutted

                        I was wondering how MSM and vit c can hold on to what you have if they dont have DHT suppressing abilities? What mechanism allows them to be beneficial?

                        Thanks

                        J

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                        • sizzlinghairs
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 310

                          I know Ive asked this once but just want to get a better consensus: Who here is getting more body hair from MSM/trx2?

                          Got a comment from my GF in the shower today "do you have more chest hair?" Im already hairy so I just thought "damnit."

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                          • Cob984
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 526

                            I have tons of more body hair and am also naturally very hairy, so yes it annoys me, which is why im now down to 5-6g of msm a day, i think its the msm and not trx2,

                            On Fin, i prob wont take it either but i think not blocking dht at all thro a topical or saw palmetto or beta sitoserol or niz is also probably not so smart

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                            • Jcm800
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 2614

                              Can't say I've got noticeably hairier, my pubes might be bushier tho lol

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                              • Cob984
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 526

                                guys an update of the keratene product,
                                I used it and it defn helped the hair but i got some not so nice sides,
                                i was pretty much in a daze like feeling after using the serum, the shampoo is still ok,
                                makes me feel like im numb to feeling or something, big shame im so sensitive,

                                However, it seems like saw palmetto is not a 5ar inhibitor after all, if i got those sides from topical 5ar inhibitor vs not getting it from oral and topical sp, they probably work differently,

                                so my regimen now is just the trx2 and msm/C, my temples still getting owned, and i continue to find that elusive dht blocker that i can tolerate, might just hop back on sp

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