Hidden Gem -> MSM/Vit C & TRX2 - a fin alternative?

[yeahyeahyeah]

Hi Gutted,

I've read through this thread and this stuff looks interesting. I've been taking saw palmetto for roughly 3 weeks. I've decided to drop it today and get on Msm and Vit C.

How does this stuff essentially work?

Will these two supplements alone prevent Mpb from progressing?

I am a Norwood 1 and I don't even know if I have Mpb for sure but it runs in my family a fair bit and i may be worrying my self for no reason at the moment. But I think I'll take this to hopefully prevent ands it's better to be safe than sorry.

Thanks for giving everyone your time.

I dont think gutted knows for sure. It's not scientific proven.

[Cob984]

Just added 1 dose of 120-150 sp extract back to my regimen again,

On the msm.vitc front with all due respect to gutted i doubt it does anything to stop mpb, it makes your hair grow a lot faster but does nothing to actually preventing mpb from my experience so far, about 5 weeks in.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Just added 1 dose of 120-150 sp extract back to my regimen again,

On the msm.vitc front with all due respect to gutted i doubt it does anything to stop mpb, it makes your hair grow a lot faster but does nothing to actually preventing mpb from my experience so far, about 5 weeks in.

He is on TRX2 as well.

How do we know that isnt the key ingredient? It just took a while to kick in.

[Cob984]

He is on TRX2 as well.

How do we know that isnt the key ingredient? It just took a while to kick in.

actually i am quite convinced thats exactly what happened, it just took time and he happened to be on the msm/vitc and off sp when it did

I am on trx2 as well but only in week 4 now and i cant let my hair detriorate while waiting for it to take effect so im back 1 dose on the sp

[yeahyeahyeah]

actually i am quite convinced thats exactly what happened, it just took time and he happened to be on the msm/vitc and off sp when it did

I am on trx2 as well but only in week 4 now and i cant let my hair detriorate while waiting for it to take effect so im back 1 dose on the sp

Well i am on vitc / msm , will let you guys know if anything happens, been about 4 days.

Shedding is still low. But then again it ALWAYS was.

[Cob984]

Well i am on vitc / msm , will let you guys know if anything happens, been about 4 days.

Shedding is still low. But then again it ALWAYS was.

same with me, shedding has always been less of a problem, its the thinning thats out of control

you not jumping on the trx2?

[yeahyeahyeah]

same with me, shedding has always been less of a problem, its the thinning thats out of control

you not jumping on the trx2?

Thought about it. Price is off putting.

How much hairs do you shed?

[Cob984]

Thought about it. Price is off putting.

How much hairs do you shed?

depends on the day, but i have noticed my hair shed is down in the shower atleast since trx2 when i shampoo i only see 3-4 hair now as opposed to 5-10 before, i guess if i tug at my hair or ruffle it i still shed 3-4.

[yeahyeahyeah]

depends on the day, but i have noticed my hair shed is down in the shower atleast since trx2 when i shampoo i only see 3-4 hair now as opposed to 5-10 before, i guess if i tug at my hair or ruffle it i still shed 3-4.

And you are thinning aggressively, god that is weird?

Wait - didnt you write before how when your thinning was really aggressive, you was shedding 120 hairs?

I take it you think TRX2 works

[Cob984]

Do not know if trx2 works yet, but my shed seems down,

yes i am thinning very very aggressively, but its always been this way, during my year on sp i have experimented with getting off it and everytime i do the thinning is massive, the sp doesnt solve my problem though, it just slows it, and now for the first time not only am i thinning but my temples are receding like crazy so much so that my family members are noticing it

no that was never me, i only shed that much waaaay back before i started any medicine and even noticed i had mpb

[yeahyeahyeah]

Do not know if trx2 works yet, but my shed seems down,

yes i am thinning very very aggressively, but its always been this way, during my year on sp i have experimented with getting off it and everytime i do the thinning is massive, the sp doesnt solve my problem though, it just slows it, and now for the first time not only am i thinning but my temples are receding like crazy so much so that my family members are noticing it

no that was never me, i only shed that much waaaay back before i started any medicine and even noticed i had mpb

Why are you on saw palmetto if you are taking trx 2?

[Cob984]

Why are you on saw palmetto if you are taking trx 2?

because my hair has taken a beating since i dropped it, its regressing badly, the shed may be down but on all other fronts its gotten way worse

[yeahyeahyeah]

because my hair has taken a beating since i dropped it, its regressing badly, the shed may be down but on all other fronts its gotten way worse

So how do you know it is the saw palmetto working and not the trx2

[Cob984]

well i dropped the saw palmetto and started trx2 and my shed level dropped with it,
but my hair has continued to thin and hairline regress so i am back on the sp, just a very low dose to slow things down and buy the trx2 more time to work, thats my logic anyway

at this point i dont give a crap what works as long as something slows this down ill pay and eat anything

[MrBlonde]

Do not know if trx2 works yet, but my shed seems down,

yes i am thinning very very aggressively, but its always been this way, during my year on sp i have experimented with getting off it and everytime i do the thinning is massive, the sp doesnt solve my problem though, it just slows it, and now for the first time not only am i thinning but my temples are receding like crazy so much so that my family members are noticing it

no that was never me, i only shed that much waaaay back before i started any medicine and even noticed i had mpb

I too am going through this. My hair is thinning very badly and shedding at the hairline a lot. I look like a mess right now and am rocking the same pathetic looking combover as you in an attempt to cover it up. The long hair MSM gives you means I can cover my temples but its obvious what I am doing. People will glance at my hair when talking to me and you just know they are thinking "look at this bellend, he should just shave his head". I wish I could but I have a big scar up there and a massive head so its not that I will look bad bald but I will look like a freak.

Baldness and buzzing are not an option for me. I am already looking at a partial frontal hair system while I try to recover from this and I am also saving for a HT to rebuild my hairline, although I won't do that until I stabilise this hairloss and thinning. That is how desperate I am.

I have been on TRX2, VITC 4g and Opti MSM 9g for about 6 weeks now. I have noticed a slight reduction in itching which gutted says is the first sign that this is working. He listed the following recovery stages in this programs

1. Reduction in itch (3 week to - 2 month mark)
2. Reduction in shedding (3 to 6 month mark)
3. Increase in density (6-12months)
4. Satablisation of MBP (12+ months)

The time markers are an approximation from memory of what he said but just go through the thread to find his exact approximations. I hope to god he is right and I am encouraged by the reduction in itching which would indicate things are on track but I have lost so much ground in 2 months and it could be another 4 until shedding reduces, not stops mind you, that I will be beyond the point of no return and will have lost my fight against MPB. This and the thinning of hair and the fact non sulfate shampoo and MSM makes the hair very limp is compounding my woes.

I am hanging on by my fingernails here. My right temple is shedding a lot more than my left so I try and play with the hairline and brush it accross but whatever way I work it I am a walking object of ridicule right now unless I wear a hat. Even then my hair is so weak and limp that simply putting on and pulling off a hat causes hair fall.

I hope to god Gutted was right and things pick up. I hope to G O D.