Aderans

[UK_]

Shaving ur head is pointless if you're under 6ft and skinny as phuck.

We need to create A.I super-intelligent sentient beings that can re-programme themselves at the speed of light, only then, with this access to God-like wisdom, can hair loss be cured. However, we may be informed by these Gods that the cure for hair loss lies within.

[clarence]

Sure, in theory YES - with multiple rounds of cell injections and such injections FOREVER. But even so (every 3 or 6 or 12 month cells injections into the balding areas), same as with Propecia:
once the time will come, when not even "postponing the inevitable" will work anymore (if Propecia worked at all for you), because mother nature will be simply stronger.

Mother nature may respond unfavorably to taming, but in the end I think it's just boils down to whether you rather like a combover or a castration. Our grandfathers would have been happy to know anything in between.

[Desmond84]

Thinning u r awesome brother!

Keep up the alpha male attitude I'm thinking about shaving my head to see how I look sometimes this year as well!

I admire ur courage and looking forward to reading ur updates!

[Thinning87]

Important Update

Guys I know you're all waiting for my update so here it is: I went out to the bars for the first time tonight with an almost fully shaved head (I buzzed my hair for the first time very very short 4 days ago, got some positive feedback, but promised I would go out and try the new look at a club for you).

Well here is my update: I got way too drunk from the beginning so I wasn't able to really talk to any girls because I was so wasted. However I remember at the beginning some girls were looking with interest.

Do not fear, I am going out again tonight and I will update you with a new post tomorrow.

[StinkySmurf]

Oh man! I thought you were the blonde guy!!! Thats so funny!

[StinkySmurf]

Therefore I had doubts whether I get the bullshit right Washenik is talking about in his presentation. In other words, I couldn't really believe what I hear - after 10 years "Aderans Research Institute"... I mean, ARI's new approach is like a déjà-vu of events 10 years ago.

Ahh... I didn't realize that was actually your photo. I thought it was just a link until this very moment so yes, I can see how you are right on the fence with ARI. Honestly, if I was a NW6 or NW7 I would not have big hopes, at least not yet, but you might be right on the line if what you're saying is correct about the tonsure area.

I do think when I look at the ARI photos of the bald spot up close I see improvement in the tonsure area even though it's not as much although they themselves are basically saying the improvement gets worse towards the center.

I still think the jury is out on getting multiple rounds of injections and if that improves the tonsure area further for people with a higher Norwood level, and thats how they ended their presentation so...

[StinkySmurf]

No problem - but actually it was YOU who seriously answered my questions concerning my own (hairloss)problem - here they are:

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showpost.php?p=101714&postcount=935

YOU helped me with your transcripts. English is NOT my first language. Therefore I had doubts whether I get the bullshit right Washenik is talking about in his presentation. In other words, I couldn't really believe what I hear ...

Yes, this is what I thought when you kept asking. Cheers mate

[534623]

Hey IM, thanks again for answering my questions yesterday. It was a long day, but that was the info I needed so thanks.

No problem - but actually it was YOU who seriously answered my questions concerning my own (hairloss)problem - here they are:

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showpost.php?p=101714&postcount=935

YOU helped me with your transcripts. English is NOT my first language. Therefore I had doubts whether I get the bullshit right Washenik is talking about in his presentation. In other words, I couldn't really believe what I hear - after 10 years "Aderans Research Institute"... I mean, ARI's new approach is like a déjà-vu of events 10 years ago.

[StinkySmurf]

Hey IM, thanks again for answering my questions yesterday. It was a long day, but that was the info I needed so thanks.

[StinkySmurf]

Are you addressing me?

So are they gonna market this as a personal topical rather than in a clinical environment? That is pathetic if true...

No, I was addressing someone else. It's not a topical. It's a procedure definitely that you will need to go to a clinic for.

[garethbale]

And then why would the value proposition slide say this...

"Procedural treatment for long term personalized solution rather than ongoing maintenance therapy"

Are you addressing me?

So are they gonna market this as a personal topical rather than in a clinical environment? That is pathetic if true...

[StinkySmurf]

And then why would the value proposition slide say this...

"Procedural treatment for long term personalized solution rather than ongoing maintenance therapy"

[garethbale]

Sorry for my ignorance but how does everyone know that Aderans isn't using DP cells and what are the implications of this? Has Aderans admitted as much themselves?

I've been looking at some of the comments and I'm not sure what to make of all this. Fortunately I'm still only around a Norwood 1.5/2 and have been receding quite slowly, but I can't style my hairline how I'd like to and I hate that. Hopefully this (or Histogen or Replicel) will come out and enable me to fill in my hairline.

[StinkySmurf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_JHbtXJ0a8&feature=player_detailpage#t=570s

yeah, but there is just one giant freaking problem with all those papers. Go back and look at the video. The chart shows hair counts for Ji Gami increasing as the length of time from the procedure increases. In fact it doesn't even hit 60% response until week 54 with the 2011 protocol, and the hair counts are not less at 54 weeks. They are more. The only difference in the 2013 protocol is the response rate starts out much higher which indicates the use of the genetic pre-test but the numbers improve with time in both sets of data.

So when exactly does it stop working because five years sounds like a long time to have more hair to me?

[clarence]

can't we all just get a gho transplant problem solved anyway?

Solve one problem, get another.

Well, actually I've long toyed with the idea of transplanting some of the hairs from non-permanent zones of the donor area, so that the transplanted hairs would eventually thin out similarly those surrounding them, and I'd always look perfectly au naturelle even if I went balder. No need for ji gami and histogen then, eh?