CB-03-01 - new antiandrogenic

[lifelonglearning]

I think the problem is most of them you can buy are like this and the patch wont work on your scalp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMVAScMhUkU#t=47

I think you would need something like this one. But even then it may not work because long hair would prevent the current from going through your scalp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udhUMKx-OMs

[efedrez]

why has nobody bought an iso machine and CB and tried it?

http://www.iontocentre.com/iontophor...-Machines.html

I have been wondering the same thing for a while, I wouldn't mind to use a machine once a week to apply CB if I can get the same results as I was getting with fin without risking my health.

If we could get our hand on a detailed procedure on how to do it we could even consider a community trial and see how that goes

[stan]

why has nobody bought an iso machine and CB and tried it?

http://www.iontocentre.com/iontophor...-Machines.html

perhaps for reason similar to yours

[NeedHairASAP]

why has nobody bought an iso machine and CB and tried it?

http://www.iontocentre.com/iontophoresis/Iontophoresis-Machines.html

[BDDFreak]

I think cosmo is giving an update on the 30th of this month, so in 2 days.

[Pentarou]

I genuinely despair that people seem to think that a topical alternative to finasteride, purchasable from pharmacies rather than the black market, wouldn't be an incredible thing (if it passes trials, of course)

[WashedOut]

Might be a cool drug, but could def be overhyped.

For one, EVERYTHING has sides. No such thing as a drug that doesn't affect the body in multiple ways. Guaranteed some people will get side effects. I won't care as long as it doesn't destroy my sex organs or my brain like propecia does.

Secondly, everyone is basing this "twice as strong as propecia" stuff on ONE trial that used iontophoresis, and only measured a small subset of men during a small amount of time. Propecia is proven to work and has been tried and true, and even still it doesn't do the trick for everyone. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, but it's usually good to keep expectations low when it comes to drugs. Replicel might still prove to be a good maintenance drug too, but they are both up in the air, and the real cure will come via stem cell regeneration, but who knows when. Propecia really ****ed us all, these things would have been brought to market earlier if it weren't for its effectiveness.

Everything has sides but maybe there's less risk, maybe the sides are less dangerous. Hell if it's even just as effective as propecia that's not bad. It's not going to be some magic potion but it could be a very good option when we basically have no choice but to take finasteride.

[burtandernie]

Yeah I agree until its all said and done no one really knows anything for sure. I think it has a lot of potential from what we have heard so far and its the nearest thing to market really in the next couple years. Minus CB I dont know what else is even coming in the next 10 years

[sdsurfin]

how is it overhyped? It was made to be superior by cosmo. we're just waiting and discussing it.

Might be a cool drug, but could def be overhyped.

For one, EVERYTHING has sides. No such thing as a drug that doesn't affect the body in multiple ways. Guaranteed some people will get side effects. I won't care as long as it doesn't destroy my sex organs or my brain like propecia does.

Secondly, everyone is basing this "twice as strong as propecia" stuff on ONE trial that used iontophoresis, and only measured a small subset of men during a small amount of time. Propecia is proven to work and has been tried and true, and even still it doesn't do the trick for everyone. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, but it's usually good to keep expectations low when it comes to drugs. Replicel might still prove to be a good maintenance drug too, but they are both up in the air, and the real cure will come via stem cell regeneration, but who knows when. Propecia really ****ed us all, these things would have been brought to market earlier if it weren't for its effectiveness.

[TravisB]

RU and Propecia have proven preventing loss is possible. CB is basically just the first commercially available topical that we can use without sides. It should work considering it's not doing anything new it's just a question of how well and without adverse effects.

Seems like it's not hitting any roadblocks in trials. All the other treatments seemed to draw out and delay their trials while CB is surprisingly going quickly.

Still I don't think we'll see MPB version sooner than in 2018

And we can't be sure if we'll ever see it, because there is no guarantee that they will find the right vehicle for it.

Remember that they used iontophoresis in their Proof Of Concept study back in 2010, and that gave GREAT results - it looks like it's isn't good only for maintenance, but also for regrowth and hair thickening

Here is link to the study results - http://www.cosmopharmaceuticals.com/...010-10-06.aspx



They tested it on 40 men

If they want to release it to the market, then it will have to be in some cream or lotion form

So we can't be sure if they will find the right vehicle, and if this vehicle will work as good as iontophoresis

Acne version will be released sooner, but it will most likely not work for MPB

[burtandernie]

Yeah Im glad and hope we see it. I think a lot of guys would love a preventative treatment that is safer. It would really be good if it could be over the counter next to rogain that would really increase the sales and help drive down the cost.

[WashedOut]

RU and Propecia have proven preventing loss is possible. CB is basically just the first commercially available topical that we can use without sides. It should work considering it's not doing anything new it's just a question of how well and without adverse effects.

Seems like it's not hitting any roadblocks in trials. All the other treatments seemed to draw out and delay their trials while CB is surprisingly going quickly.

[burtandernie]

Nothing is for certain until its finished and being used. Hopefully they see this through all the way to the finish line. This might be able to prevent mature hairlines and with few sides so you just use it for the fun of it in case you might lose hair and twice as strong as propecia? If it works out its near a cure for people looking to just prevent MPB. All the hype of course is just theoretical. We need to see how it actually works in large trials

[ShookOnes]

I have an eerie feeling that CB has been way overhyped like everything else.

how is it overhyped? It was made to be superior by cosmo. we're just waiting and discussing it.

[Paul73]

I have an eerie feeling that CB has been way overhyped like everything else.

The great benefit of CB is that it will be side effect free. So from what i have read, it will work similar or better than RU, but without side effects. That's a good reason for the hype.