Where are the phase IIb results for Bimatoprost?

[It's2014ComeOnAlready]

Holy sh*t I thought he was trolling.

HAHA I didn't even consider it. Holy crap it's been a long day.

[JayM]

I'm sorry, I'm not treating anyone poorly, just putting things into perspective. After every post I've made about bim, you've called me a liar, BSer, I'm dreaming, full of it etc etc. Now you're telling me how to talk to people? You think some dude on a forum is closer to the cure than Cots? DELUSIONAL! AND you had a problem with me posting about bim all this time...only to find out that I've been right on the money about pretty much everything.

Who do you think you are?

Holy sh*t I thought he was trolling.

[eldarlmario]

Nah if bim doesn't come out next month, it'll be here in a year or so. They've shown they will continue development to bring it to market. The only question remains is their progress. If they've known that this drug works for the past year and haven't done anything about it, they are morons (but I highly doubt this is the case).

Worst comes to worst, they haven't begun phase 3, in which case it will be a year or so. But I highly, highly doubt this is the case.

dude, i have used this http://www.scbt.com/datasheet-222336-tafluprost.html . It's WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY~~~~~ than bimatoprost. Did nothing and even accelerated shedding. On top of that- it caused nerve pain in my left arm and some tinnitus in my right ear. Furthermore, Dr Cotsarelis's PGD2 study already stated that PGF2a levels are slightly elevated in bald scalp when compared to haired-scalp. U are going to get disappointed BIGTIME if you still pin all that hope on Bimatoprost.

*PS take note im refering to hair on the balding scalp- i have no doubt that Bimatoprost works for elongating eyelashes- on top of worsening your dark eye circles and causing fat loss underneath your eyes. How do I know all these?? I have already tried all these before. Seriously, I really wished that PGF2a would work for hair gorwth on the bald scalp- but all the Data PLUS my own experience doesnt says so.

[burtandernie]

Lets pretend this is out now. How much would it cost and how often would you need to use it and in what amount? I know its guessing, but is it going to be really expensive compared to say minox and fin per month?

[It's2014ComeOnAlready]

You shouldn't behave this way to Eldarlmario..I''l tell you that he is very close to find the cure. You shouldn't fight with a person whose dedicated to find the last pieces of Cotsarelis research.

I'm sorry, I'm not treating anyone poorly, just putting things into perspective. After every post I've made about bim, you've called me a liar, BSer, I'm dreaming, full of it etc etc. Now you're telling me how to talk to people? You think some dude on a forum is closer to the cure than Cots? DELUSIONAL! AND you had a problem with me posting about bim all this time...only to find out that I've been right on the money about pretty much everything.

Who do you think you are?

[It's2014ComeOnAlready]

Bim is the closest, effective new protocol we've had since Dut. If Bim doesn't work out, it will be a minimum of five to seven years before something else MIGHT be available. If Bim doesn't play out, we can all take a break from the forums for the rest of the decade, because there won't be anything new until then.

Nah if bim doesn't come out next month, it'll be here in a year or so. They've shown they will continue development to bring it to market. The only question remains is their progress. If they've known that this drug works for the past year and haven't done anything about it, they are morons (but I highly doubt this is the case).

Worst comes to worst, they haven't begun phase 3, in which case it will be a year or so. But I highly, highly doubt this is the case.

[Occulus]

Alright, well let me know when you've solved hair loss and are a billionaire. What happened to that 90-something page thread you had going with 95% of those posts belonging to you? Couldn't figure it out? Damn, you had me convinced you were so close.

Given that you thought you could figure out hair loss by loosely piecing together a bunch of peer reviewed journals, you're not someone I'd ever listen to advice from.

Thanks, but no thanks.

Bim is the closest, effective new protocol we've had since Dut. If Bim doesn't work out, it will be a minimum of five to seven years before something else MIGHT be available. If Bim doesn't play out, we can all take a break from the forums for the rest of the decade, because there won't be anything new until then.

[breakbot]

Alright, well let me know when you've solved hair loss and are a billionaire. What happened to that 90-something page thread you had going with 95% of those posts belonging to you? Couldn't figure it out? Damn, you had me convinced you were so close.

Given that you thought you could figure out hair loss by loosely piecing together a bunch of peer reviewed journals, you're not someone I'd ever listen to advice from.

Thanks, but no thanks.

You shouldn't behave this way to Eldarlmario..I''l tell you that he is very close to find the cure. You shouldn't fight with a person whose dedicated to find the last pieces of Cotsarelis research.

[JayM]

Alright, well let me know when you've solved hair loss and are a billionaire. What happened to that 90-something page thread you had going with 95% of those posts belonging to you? Couldn't figure it out? Damn, you had me convinced you were so close.

Given that you thought you could figure out hair loss by loosely piecing together a bunch of peer reviewed journals, you're not someone I'd ever listen to advice from.

Thanks, but no thanks.

rEKT. Saying it how it is.

[It's2014ComeOnAlready]

sorry im afraid u would be disappointed bigtime by pinning all the hope on Bimatoprost.

Alright, well let me know when you've solved hair loss and are a billionaire. What happened to that 90-something page thread you had going with 95% of those posts belonging to you? Couldn't figure it out? Damn, you had me convinced you were so close.

Given that you thought you could figure out hair loss by loosely piecing together a bunch of peer reviewed journals, you're not someone I'd ever listen to advice from.

Thanks, but no thanks.

[eldarlmario]

I did a little more digging and it turns out, in February 2014, Allergan invested $10.6 million into this plant in Waco for a 22,000 sq ft. expansion to produce Latisse. I think it might be fair to say, this place could be the main center in the US where bimatoprost is produced by Allergan.

and

Kris Collins, senior vice president for economic development at the Greater Waco Chamber of Commerce, said about the plant: "If it’s an eye product made by Allergan, it’s probably produced in Waco."

Now, I know this guy isn't an Allergan representative. However, he must have intimate knowledge the kind of distribution they do, what they produce, etc. etc. I'd actually trust the word of person in his position, then someone working for the company. They're more likely to not say anything at all.

It could be another drug, but I find all these coincidences are starting to paint a picture imo.

sorry im afraid u would be disappointed bigtime by pinning all the hope on Bimatoprost.

[Occulus]

I did a little more digging and it turns out, in February 2014, Allergan invested $10.6 million into this plant in Waco for a 22,000 sq ft. expansion to produce Latisse. I think it might be fair to say, this place could be the main center in the US where bimatoprost is produced by Allergan.

and

Kris Collins, senior vice president for economic development at the Greater Waco Chamber of Commerce, said about the plant: "If it’s an eye product made by Allergan, it’s probably produced in Waco."

Now, I know this guy isn't an Allergan representative. However, he must have intimate knowledge the kind of distribution they do, what they produce, etc. etc. I'd actually trust the word of person in his position, then someone working for the company. They're more likely to not say anything at all.

It could be another drug, but I find all these coincidences are starting to paint a picture imo.

Maybe it's worth giving this Collins guy a call and see if he's willing to give a bit more information? Say you're a reporter.

[barfacan]

But what do you think about 9/11?

[It's2014ComeOnAlready]

I did a little more digging and it turns out, in February 2014, Allergan invested $10.6 million into this plant in Waco for a 22,000 sq ft. expansion to produce Latisse. I think it might be fair to say, this place could be the main center in the US where bimatoprost is produced by Allergan.

and

Kris Collins, senior vice president for economic development at the Greater Waco Chamber of Commerce, said about the plant: "If it’s an eye product made by Allergan, it’s probably produced in Waco."

Now, I know this guy isn't an Allergan representative. However, he must have intimate knowledge the kind of distribution they do, what they produce, etc. etc. I'd actually trust the word of person in his position, then someone working for the company. They're more likely to not say anything at all.

It could be another drug, but I find all these coincidences are starting to paint a picture imo.

[unbalding]

AGAIN, It shows in the patent that .3% was previously tested in patients. It gives actual evidence. Then it goes on to describe how and why it arrived at that range of 2.5%-3.5%. I'm not making anything up. You are assuming I am because you refuse to READ any material on your own.

It isn't important to know the optimal dosage because pure bimatoprost powder costs $700-$900 per GRAM. Go buy some if you're so curious, and let us know how it goes. I'll wait until a product is distributed worldwide and becomes much more affordable.

You're right, I don't have time to read the entire patent. I have a life.

I did find this though:

Examples of particularly preferred compositions for growing hair by topical application comprise bimatoprost in free form or a pharmaceutically acceptable salt thereof, wherein the bimatoprost is contained in an amount of about 0.3% w/w to about 4% w/w

That's a big range. There's no reason to believe that the optimal dose is at the top of that range. Considering the cost of the powder, I think it makes more sense to try 1% before trying 3%. If you want to try 3% then go right ahead, but don't tell people that 3% is the optimal dose. You don't work for Allergan.

I'm about to start PGE2. If I don't have success with that I will try bimatoprost at 1%. Why should I tell you how it goes though? You're a jerk. All I did was ask you a simple question, "where did you get that information from", so that I could check it out myself. Instead of answering me you picked a fight. You don't want to help me by just telling me where you got your information from, but you want me to share the results of my experiment with you? Get out of here.