3rd Procedure with Gho

[534623]

Haha I knew you would feel insulted

Why? I like your analysis. It is so cute, sexy - and conclusive.

[Arashi]

I do not agree. I find this analysis...

Haha I knew you would feel insulted You're such a little girl, it's almost cute. But seriously, you really can't disagree, his analysis with all those reference lines he drew, is way more solid than yours. Best by far.

[maxhair]

By the way...
I wonder why Spencer (or someone else) didn't ask Dr. Gho how he sees the future of hair multiplication in general, and also about what he is thinking about the work of other companies in this field like Aderans, Histogen, Replicel etc.

Gho told me that he'll incorporate Histogen into his practice when it comes out.

He also told me that he's had Acell since it was only available for animal use - and that it doesn't work because adult stem cells can not regenerate.

[534623]

JJJr's analysis, he did an awesome job earlier, best analysis by far

I do not agree. I find this analysis...

...much much better.

Oh, and, of course, you can even zoom-in...

http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/Arashi-Jerk.jpg

[Arashi]

Gaz, how is it going ? Looking forward to the shaved head photo's (and JJJr's analysis, he did an awesome job earlier, best analysis by far)

[534623]

Very receptive - because Dr. Gho believes anyhow, that this is realistic.

http://youtu.be/Cc2fAhzVbdU

So as soon as someone in this field comes up with a "2 follicles from 1 follicle" version for the recipient area - Dr. Gho will come up with the same - but donor regeneration still INCLUDED (=3 follicles from 1 follicle)!

By the way...
I wonder why Spencer (or someone else) didn't ask Dr. Gho how he sees the future of hair multiplication in general, and also about what he is thinking about the work of other companies in this field like Aderans, Histogen, Replicel etc.

[maxhair]

... the evidence, anyone?

[Skywalker]

Yeah, good points. Where's the evidence?

Good points indeed - whistle dixie

[maxhair]

maxhair - you think it is unfair that people don't want to pay you to have a trial HST (+ expenses of course) - and then when gc83uk offers you evidence for free which you cannot be bothered to search for - you are continually rude to him ! You are coming over as a complete and utter TOOL.

Yeah, good points. Where's the evidence?

[Skywalker]

"Do you mean straightforward, like a Norwood 3"

<sigh>
I'm a NW6, I say it in that very post you just read ! I also explain earlier in the thread what is less "straight forward" - we are talking extraction of follicles here and skin contrast - certainly nothing to do with how much hair you have in the recipient area.

[clarence]

Ok, guess I'm the only one to who is unfamiliar with the expression "straight forward" in this context

[Skywalker]

You say 'straight forward'. Do you mean straightforward, like a Norwood 3 comes in and says he wants a few grafts, say, 300 just to give a little bit more definition to the hairline/forelock, and Dr. Gho says "No I don't do straightforward cases! But you can get a FUE from Rahal", so the patient says "ok take as much money as you would take from a full procedure, but don't take as many grafts", and Dr. Gho says "Get out of here!" This what you mean?

Read the posts in this thread Clarence - good grief, is english your second or third language ? That is the only way I can see that you cannot get it.

maxhair - you think it is unfair that people don't want to pay you to have a trial HST (+ expenses of course) - and then when gc83uk offers you evidence for free which you cannot be bothered to search for - you are continually rude to him ! You are coming over as a complete and utter TOOL.

[clarence]

The 50 graft test - because he doesn't do it on what he considers straight forward cases - as it is a money loser for him. At least, that is the only reason I can see for him refusing, and he did comment that it takes as long to set up for the 50 graft test as a full paying HST..

You say 'straight forward'. Do you mean straightforward, like a Norwood 3 comes in and says he wants a few grafts, say, 300 just to give a little bit more definition to the hairline/forelock, and Dr. Gho says "No I don't do straightforward cases! But you can get a FUE from Rahal", so the patient says "ok take as much money as you would take from a full procedure, but don't take as many grafts", and Dr. Gho says "Get out of here!" This what you mean?

[maxhair]

ops, sorry - I forgot the most important part:
So after multiple HST procedures in your donor area, and always in the same area (safety zone) ....

... you will look like this - if you don't always shave your hair. Because all the "slit" hairs remain dwarf hairs and after many procedures, of course, once upon a time, practically ALL hairs in the safety zone got "slit" and therefore, once upon a time, ALL hairs will remain dwarf hairs. So always shaving your head is the key! Or the smaller the safety zone - the better! So you can eventually cover up the dwarf hairs.

Is this a "joke", or not?

People are saying you are kidding us on about hairs only growing to 1mm etc.

It's confusing for me, and I'm on here to get information about a serious medical issue, not for practical jokes.

[Skywalker]

Skywalker were you turned away for the 50 graft test because he doesn't do it anymore or have you been turned away from HST altogether by Gho?

The 50 graft test - because he doesn't do it on what he considers straight forward cases - as it is a money loser for him. At least, that is the only reason I can see for him refusing, and he did comment that it takes as long to set up for the 50 graft test as a full paying HST..

If I were to go back and look to have a full procedure then first I would go there and grow my hair out so that they could see properly the miniaturisation in the lower part of the donor area - I want them to be sure they can get a decent amount of grafts out with what I have left and when you cut to a #0 guard as I do all the time it is difficult with the naked eye (at least for me) to see what is miniaturised and what isn't.

They certainly didn't have any concern about doing HST on me once I explained my limited expectations but I would want to make 100% certain they knew what they were taking on.

BTW, I am NOT a NW7 - definitely an advanced NW6. I think proper NW7's are a different proposition again.