Nigams doubling test FAILED + proof.

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  • ss1980
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    Too many gullible suckers in this world.
    All I want is a single successful doubling transplant, so far all he demonstrated id that he is extremly good at coppying and pasting and quoting dr jahoda

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  • Arashi
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    Nigam responded at HS, he's convinced his doubling works ! Yes, that's why his own doubling test failed, Wesley didn't grow any hair and Tom went from 80 gr/cm2 to 40 gr/cm2. That works pretty well mr Nigam, good luck presenting that at the conference

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  • ss1980
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    Wonder what nigams response is gonna be

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  • tom vercetti
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    Sorry my post was adressed to ss1980.

    Thanks Hair123 !

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  • garethbale
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    Originally posted by tom vercetti
    people like you dont change the world, actually they just follow all their life. It's not so bad actually, just a choice of life.

    Im not desperate at all, and from this experience has matured a new hope. Will let people know later.
    Interesting, Tom. Are you referring to Mwamba?

    Can you elaborate?

    Thanks

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  • tom vercetti
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    people like you dont change the world, actually they just follow all their life. It's not so bad actually, just a choice of life.

    Im not desperate at all, and from this experience has matured a new hope. Will let people know later.

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  • JJJJrS
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    Glad to see Nigam completely discredited. Hope there's some justice out there and the fraud gets what's coming to him.

    It still amazes me how many people fell for the con. Despite all the warnings/red flags, there were people flying out half-around the world, wasting their time and money on a completely unproven treatment. What's even worse is that these guys were getting injected with who knows what, and putting their own health seriously at risk. I hope some of the more desperate, gullible posters on the hair loss forums will reflect on this and maybe try to temper the wishful thinking in the future.

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  • Hair123
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    Originally posted by ss1980
    Lol.. I knew it is gonna end up like this. Some people are so desperate and naive. Hair doublin at this point in time is science fiction. Nigam is clown. At the same time people who paid him money dont deserve money back, they need to pay for stupidity
    stop being so ignorant. They knew chances it would fail were high but they took the risk anyway so props to them for having the balls for trying.

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  • ss1980
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    Lol.. I knew it is gonna end up like this. Some people are so desperate and naive. Hair doublin at this point in time is science fiction. Nigam is clown. At the same time people who paid him money dont deserve money back, they need to pay for stupidity

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  • Arashi
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    Originally posted by tom vercetti
    Hello,

    I am a nigam patient and it seems his doubling doesnt work.. My density in some area of my donor where he extracted are now 40graft per cm... its crazy since before that I only got a 1500 hair transplant and donor looks great.. Now my donor is so thin and Im really not happy with the result. So in my opinion, nigam doubling simply doesnt work..

    About de novo doubling, its another story. The technique is not his technique but rather mine with another person (wich i keep the name secret).. de novo cant be performed in europe anyway and result at this time is not guarantee.

    To resume:

    i got 2 hair transplant with nigam:

    1/ hair doubling: who give me a 40 graft density at donor (others area he didnt performed and where i got my bisanga are 82.. To compare. I asked nigam micro picture from before.. He never sent..
    For me, in my opinion, this is a fail.

    2/ de novo (a technoque I developed with someone) could maybe work.. need to be confirmed, but couldnt be performed in europe due to law regulation.

    Thats it for now

    EDIT: im so sorry for many people who got faith in nigam because of me. I feel really bad for them.. I know some and invit them to speak for their own.. Here i can only speak for my side and my own experience
    Thanks for the update, Tom. I'm hoping that everybody who paid for a worthless procedure is going to at least TRY to get all of their hard earned money back from Nigam.

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  • tom vercetti
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    Hello,

    I am a nigam patient and it seems his doubling doesnt work.. My density in some area of my donor where he extracted are now 40graft per cm... its crazy since before that I only got a 1500 hair transplant and donor looks great.. Now my donor is so thin and Im really not happy with the result. So in my opinion, nigam doubling simply doesnt work..

    About de novo doubling, its another story. The technique is not his technique but rather mine with another person (wich i keep the name secret).. de novo cant be performed in europe anyway and result at this time is not guarantee.

    To resume:

    i got 2 hair transplant with nigam:

    1/ hair doubling: who give me a 40 graft density at donor (others area he didnt performed and where i got my bisanga are 82.. To compare. I asked nigam micro picture from before.. He never sent..
    For me, in my opinion, this is a fail.

    2/ de novo (a technoque I developed with someone) could maybe work.. need to be confirmed, but couldnt be performed in europe due to law regulation.

    Thats it for now

    EDIT: im so sorry for many people who got faith in nigam because of me. I feel really bad for them.. I know some and invit them to speak for their own.. Here i can only speak for my side and my own experience

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  • Barron
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    Originally posted by Arashi
    I really don't know man ... The theory has been there for more than 10 years, it's been proven to work on mice but no doctor has ever shown any convincing evidence that it worked on patients too. It might someday, who knows ... I'd say we'll have to wait for good results on the cell therapy front though and that this whole doubling theory might prove to be a dead-end. But who knows, my guess is as good as yours.
    For sure. One thing Dr. Wesley said during his presentation made me think a little bit. He talked about how the tissue surrounding the follicle was important to transplant as well in order to optimize graft survival rates and ensure graft quality. Made me wonder how perfect of a transplant one an achieve through something like transplanting just stem cells...

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  • Arashi
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    Originally posted by Barron
    Arashi, what are your opinions on donor regeneration/doubling as a whole?
    I really don't know man ... The theory has been there for more than 10 years, it's been proven to work on mice but no doctor has ever shown any convincing evidence that it worked on patients too. It might someday, who knows ... I'd say we'll have to wait for good results on the cell therapy front though and that this whole doubling theory might prove to be a dead-end. But who knows, my guess is as good as yours.

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  • Barron
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    Originally posted by Arashi
    Well, his 15 graft test failed and Wesley's doubling procedure failed and he destroyed his donor. So it does seem you're wrong there ... It's not just that he's unethical and only after taking your money. He's a danger to society.
    lol...yeah...it's seeming that way...isn't it. Very unfortunate. The 15 graft test wasn't enough evidence for me, personally, to write him off in my mind; but Wesley's failed doubling procedure sheds a lot of light on the truth.

    Arashi, what are your opinions on donor regeneration/doubling as a whole? Do you think it still has some merit/value, or has this all been a wild goose chase?

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  • Barron
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    Originally posted by Arashi
    Well, his 15 graft test failed and Wesley's doubling procedure failed and he destroyed his donor. So it does seem you're wrong there ...
    lol...yeah...it's seeming that way...isn't it. Very unfortunate. The 15 graft test wasn't enough evidence for me, personally, to write him off in my mind; but Wesley's failed doubling procedure sheds a lot of light on the truth.

    Arashi, what are your opinions on donor regeneration/doubling as a whole?
    Last edited by Winston; 11-13-2013, 01:38 PM.

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