My turning point was when I asked Kristel about getting a 2nd HST to densify my recipient. She replied that she would advise me not to do it, cause maybe I would need the donor later on for some area's that could use it better. If donor would really regenerate 80%, that comment made 0 sense. So that's when I started to doubt HASCI. And then the evidence just kept piling up against them. Anyway, let's forget about HASCI, let's focus on Mwamba and Nigams here.
Debunking HASCI“s regeneration claim - an open letter.
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I was Gho fanboy up until Ghos 2nd interview, in that intrvw Gho sounded a bit awkward in it, 13 000 guy, etc...something was off, ...then 2 failed tests are not coincidence...to me that was it...I knw he would fail, test was a rope given to gho to hang himself. he knw he cant deliver so only option he had was to mess it up and make it impossible to analyse..but sorry gho some people are not SHEEPS...Comment
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My turning point was when I asked Kristel about getting a 2nd HST to densify my recipient. She replied that she would advise me not to do it, cause maybe I would need the donor later on for some area's that could use it better. If donor would really regenerate 80%, that comment made 0 sense. So that's when I started to doubt HASCI. And then the evidence just kept piling up against them. Anyway, let's forget about HASCI, let's focus on Mwamba and Nigams here.
Dr Gho has made a fortune so far.Comment
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Compilation of Nigam Claims and Results
Nigam has been around the forum for some time now.
I feel we should use this thread to compile his results and his claims.
Please don't insert your hopes, assumptions, or guesses....results and quotations of nigams only (w proper links)
I will go through nigams online discussion history later, anybody else who has time should do the same.Comment
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Regardless of whether or not a patient has either a very low or an exceptional dense donor before having any HT, in any case: 1-2 times.
Thereafter, they simply can NOT guarantee you anymore, that you will see "absolutely nothing"; especially, IF you intend to shave your head down to the bone - that's at least what they immediately told me during my first phone call last year. But indeed:
Try to imagine a guy with a rather low donor density, and they extract just around 1000 grafts; now let's say 30% of these 1000 extraction sites will not produce any HAIR-regeneration - that creates already around 300 hairless gaps, and that can be huge already for such guys (guys with a very very low donor density).Comment
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Yes I did, and also mentioned that competition starts to be serious!!!
Reading and listening to Mwamba interview with Spencer, times are promising... we are entering a new Era for hair treatment!!!
as soon as I have a reply if I got one, I will let you know!!!
I respect hasci but I said to Pierre that their silence on some questions or situations are not at their advantage.... which is true even if today 17/09/2013 I still don't know what to think about all these controversial things about them.
They really need to comment on this!Comment
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no, I received the answer that Gho choice or politic is to ignore forums reactions and bashers (cause it's a neverending story).
My mails were forwarded to Gho by Pierre,the french correspondent... but never received a reply.
This Pierre just shared his own personal view and told me that he talked with technicians who treated the 9HST case and that it was not a lie...ok but do we have to take words for granted (I can also bring a paper saying that I paid you 9400 euros, you will still need my money)
So again, no picture, I said picture would be far more eloquent then anything... we say the same to Nigam.
It did not help, the debunking and the counter-study of Arashi was never mentioned, and Arashi is rather considered obsessive and not constructive.
So, voilà, same thing, same story, you take their words or you just go to hell.
Still, I don't know what to think, I am less confident in them, but I would not bash, because we don't really know and GC case is a successful case... to me.
I said to Pierre that eventough I will still consider them as the only option in 2013, which is true, their communication sucks at a certain level.
and I guess, this 85% regeneration will remain a mystery.
This experiment stopped me from rushing to them for multiple session which I was ready for.... I have the budget for another five or six sessions, easy... but I was disappointed by the answers and the lack of real evidence that would have shut everybody's mouth here (which I really hope they would bring).
Anyway, I'm on hold, if I need another and there is nothing else cutting edge, I would still vote for them.... but ignoring or eluding some crucial questions was again, not fair from them.
Up to optimistic to trust, pessimistic to bash and neutral to wait and see. (I used to be very very optimistic, I became neutral, bashing is no option for me, I don't trust they would run something so big and official out of lie and fraud, they would have gone bankrupt since a while)Comment
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no, I received the answer that Gho choice or politic is to ignore forums reactions and bashers (cause it's a neverending story).
My mails were forwarded to Gho by Pierre,the french correspondent... but never received a reply.
This Pierre just shared his own personal view and told me that he talked with technicians who treated the 9HST case and that it was not a lie...ok but do we have to take words for granted (I can also bring a paper saying that I paid you 9400 euros, you will still need my money)
So again, no picture, I said picture would be far more eloquent then anything... we say the same to Nigam.
It did not help, the debunking and the counter-study of Arashi was never mentioned, and Arashi is rather considered obsessive and not constructive.
So, voilą, same thing, same story, you take their words or you just go to hell.
Still, I don't know what to think, I am less confident in them, but I would not bash, because we don't really know and GC case is a successful case... to me.
I said to Pierre that eventough I will still consider them as the only option in 2013, which is true, their communication sucks at a certain level.
and I guess, this 85% regeneration will remain a mystery.
This experiment stopped me from rushing to them for multiple session which I was ready for.... I have the budget for another five or six sessions, easy... but I was disappointed by the answers and the lack of real evidence that would have shut everybody's mouth here (which I really hope they would bring).
Anyway, I'm on hold, if I need another and there is nothing else cutting edge, I would still vote for them.... but ignoring or eluding some crucial questions was again, not fair from them.
Up to optimistic to trust, pessimistic to bash and neutral to wait and see. (I used to be very very optimistic, I became neutral, bashing is no option for me, I don't trust they would run something so big and official out of lie and fraud, they would have gone bankrupt since a while)
As a former HASCI patient, I concur on everything you said. I'm happy with my result, but wondering about all the controversy and silence.
If my hairloss forces me to make another move before nigam is confirmed... I will go to HASCI again.Comment
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It seems as if they have expanded to Austria and Indonesia now.
Are there other already established HT-surgeons beeing trained in this technique?Comment
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