Debunking HASCI´s regeneration claim - an open letter.

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  • crafter
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 239

    does Dr Gho's method really work?

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    • 534623
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 1854

      Originally posted by crafter
      does Dr Gho's method really work?
      Here is THE question again - and THE answer ...



      The answer is basically correct, BUT provided that the extraction part ("Gho's method") has been perfect - and that CAN'T be always perfect due different factors (strange follicle angulation in the skin, human error, both, etc).

      In simple words, the more extractions they need to get "perfect extractions" IN YOUR CASE (every case/patient is simply different), the lower will be the REAL and final (hair-)multiplication rate. That's all and that's how it works.

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      • Arashi
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 3888

        Originally posted by crafter
        does Dr Gho's method really work?
        Hehe, read the openingspost of this thread. In short: at least in gc83uk's case he didn't seem to get the kind of regrowth Hasci is promising their clients. However it's still a scarless procedure and therefore together with dr Wesley's procedure currently the only 2 options if you want it scarless.

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        • crafter
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2013
          • 239

          Originally posted by Arashi
          Hehe, read the openingspost of this thread. In short: at least in gc83uk's case he didn't seem to get the kind of regrowth Hasci is promising their clients. However it's still a scarless procedure and therefore together with dr Wesley's procedure currently the only 2 options if you want it scarless.
          but what about regeneration?

          The fact that he's in Europe give Dr Gho a bit more credibility.

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          • Arashi
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 3888

            Originally posted by crafter
            but what about regeneration?

            The fact that he's in Europe give Dr Gho a bit more credibility.
            Hehe. Again, read the openings post man, it tells you all you should know (and all we currently know).

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            • crafter
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2013
              • 239

              Originally posted by 534623
              Here is THE question again - and THE answer ...



              The answer is basically correct, BUT provided that the extraction part ("Gho's method") has been perfect - and that CAN'T be always perfect due different factors (strange follicle angulation in the skin, human error, both, etc).

              In simple words, the more extractions they need to get "perfect extractions" IN YOUR CASE (every case/patient is simply different), the lower will be the REAL and final (hair-)multiplication rate. That's all and that's how it works.
              seems rather exciting then and more believable than Nigam.

              Fingers crossed.

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              • Arashi
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 3888

                Originally posted by crafter
                seems rather exciting then and more believable than Nigam.

                Fingers crossed.
                Did you read my openings post ? If we look at the data, it looks like HASCI is lying too. Evidence points to the fact that regen is at least way lower than 80% and very well possibly 0.

                They are more credible than Nigam, that's for sure, the people at HASCI are REAL doctors, they never photoshopped or did anything fraudulent at all. But evidence just points at the fact that their regen claim is not true.

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                • crafter
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 239

                  Originally posted by Arashi
                  Did you read my openings post ? If we look at the data, it looks like HASCI is lying too. Evidence points to the fact that regen is at least way lower than 80% and very well possibly 0.

                  They are more credible than Nigam, that's for sure, the people at HASCI are REAL doctors, they never photoshopped or did anything fraudulent at all. But evidence just points at the fact that their regen claim is not true.
                  just watched the video.

                  that's disappointing. Make's me wonder if hair regeneration is even possible as no one seems to have achieved it yet. We had so much hope for Nigam last month but now we're back to square one

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                  • 534623
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 1854

                    Originally posted by Arashi

                    Did you read my openings post ? If we look at the data, it looks like HASCI is lying too. Evidence points to the fact that regen is at least way lower than 80% and very well possibly 0.
                    So, that means you still claim that when they make e.g. 1000 extraction holes (a mix of 1000 failed as well as proper/suitable extractions) within a patient's donor area - the regeneration rate in these 1000 (mixed) extraction holes is ZERO??
                    Last edited by Winston; 11-15-2013, 03:29 PM.

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                    • JJJJrS
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 638

                      I'm confident that no doctor is doubling/multiplying hair right now and that includes Gho.

                      It's a pretty simple task to conclusively document a small case of donor regeneration, but all of these doctors, including Gho, seem completely incapable of preforming that task. There's a reason for that and a reason why Gho is so secretive /protective about his procedure. The more you look into it, like I and some other members have, the more his claims fall apart. I would bet on no hair multiplication happening at all.

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                      • topcat
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 849

                        JJJ what you have posted I posted just a little over 10 years ago and I was banned from that forum for posting it about Gho. Why is it so hard for these guys to figure out something that just seems to be common sense......................it's called desperation and desperation will lead you to believe anything.

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                        • Arashi
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 3888

                          Originally posted by JJJJrS
                          I'm confident that no doctor is doubling/multiplying hair right now and that includes Gho.

                          It's a pretty simple task to conclusively document a small case of donor regeneration, but all of these doctors, including Gho, seem completely incapable of preforming that task. There's a reason for that and a reason why Gho is so secretive /protective about his procedure. The more you look into it, like I and some other members have, the more his claims fall apart. I would bet on no hair multiplication happening at all.
                          I totally agree. It's damn easy to prove for them. Yet in all those 10 years they haven't shown us any proof, except some paper they released, which nobody could ever verify, cause nobody has access to their 'secret preservation medium' which supposedly is needed to get to the regeneration part. Therefore it makes a lot of sense that you're right and no regeneration is happening at all.

                          Still, HASCI is the only company that offers scarless surgery, together with Dr Wesley. I just wish they were honest about that regeneration part. People would come to their clinic anyway, no need to seduce them with these unfunded claims.

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                          • Arashi
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 3888

                            Originally posted by 534623
                            So, that means you still claim that when they make e.g. 1000 extraction holes (a mix of 1000 failed as well as proper/suitable extractions) within a patient's donor area - the regeneration rate in these 1000 (mixed) extraction holes is ZERO??
                            Yup. Unless you count failed extractions as 'regeneration' of course (like you did), but that way a barber could give you regeneration too

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                            • JJJJrS
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 638

                              Originally posted by topcat
                              JJJ what you have posted I posted just a little over 10 years ago and I was banned from that forum for posting it about Gho. Why is it so hard for these guys to figure out something that just seems to be common sense......................it's called desperation and desperation will lead you to believe anything.
                              Topcat, I've been reading your posts for awhile and I really respect your views. You've been spot on about so many issues. Keep doing what you're doing, a lot of people appreciate it, myself included

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                              • Barron
                                Junior Member
                                • Jun 2013
                                • 19

                                Originally posted by Arashi
                                I totally agree. It's damn easy to prove for them. Yet in all those 10 years they haven't shown us any proof, except some paper they released, which nobody could ever verify, cause nobody has access to their 'secret preservation medium' which supposedly is needed to get to the regeneration part. Therefore it makes a lot of sense that you're right and no regeneration is happening at all.

                                Still, HASCI is the only company that offers scarless surgery, together with Dr Wesley. I just wish they were honest about that regeneration part. People would come to their clinic anyway, no need to seduce them with these unfunded claims.
                                I'm curious to hear Dr. Wesley's future claims regarding regeneration as well as see his supporting evidence. He seems to have a very conservative stance on the whole thing - he isn't playing up the possibility or making any claims until he is certain. Also, the images in his presentation looked exactly like the type of evidence we'd like to see - a before image of a small area of the scalp with all grafts extracted, followed by an after image of hair growth in that same area.

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