Debunking HASCI´s regeneration claim - an open letter.

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by JJJJrS

    No, I can assure you I've never had a transplant in my life and don't intend to get one at all.
    Cool. That means you do not have a problem at all to post a brand new zoomable photo from your head and which shows why you're here at all. Thanks in advance.

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  • JJJJrS
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    Originally posted by 534623
    To be honest - after getting 2500 normal FUE grafts in Cyprus like you recently, I think I would lost the interest too ...lol
    No, I can assure you I've never had a transplant in my life and don't intend to get one at all. Maybe if there's huge advances, like actual donor regeneration (not graft splitting), then I may consider it. But even then, I don't trust leaving my head in the hands of some hair transplant surgeon. Results are still too thin and unnatural in the recipient for me to get excited about hair transplants and I have no way of stopping the progression of hair loss. In general, I've stopped caring about hair loss as much as before.

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by JJJJrS
    Don't have the time and patience for it anymore. Lost a lot of interest in the procedure too, I have to be honest.
    To be honest - after getting 2500 normal FUE grafts in Cyprus like you recently, I think I would lost the interest too ...lol

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  • JJJJrS
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    Originally posted by 534623
    So, what's up guys?

    Nobody interested anymore to debunk Dr. Coen Gho's HST technique??

    Strange ...
    Don't have the time and patience for it anymore. Lost a lot of interest in the procedure too, I have to be honest.

    If HASCI does a 50 graft test though, I'll analyze that. Anything that isn't manageable and conclusive really isn't worth the time.

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by 534623

    Nevertheless, here are your beloved “mapped photos” from my 1st HST…

    …which should provide what you want to find out.

    FULL SIZE – Left ear side (section 1):


    FULL SIZE – Occiput (section 2):


    FULL SIZE – Right ear side (section 3):


    As you will see, the photos are sectioned already with light blue lines. So all you (or any other guy) have to do is simply making a counting (e.g. make tiny dots into every hole etc) of each and every extraction site/hole within every section: section 1 left ear side / section 2 occiput / section 3 right ear side.

    [...]

    @JJJJrS – are you (still) there?

    I hope you stored your IM analysis on your pc, because fileden, as you know, is gone.
    IF you’re still interested about the ACCURATE regeneration rate and also about what exactly regenerated…

    Analysis area shaved 1 year later:



    …feel free to find it out!

    Simply choose the other photo (Day-2 after 2nd HST) as comparison; in case you have any doubts (“Is it a 1-hair or 2-hair graft?”) about some regenerated extraction sites. If you still have any troubles with some extraction sites, please let me know! I have lots of other close-up photos from this area (Day-0 photos), to find accurate answers finally.

    Anyways, thereafter we would have at least 2 very very well and detailed analyzed reports of at least 2 similar (Caucasian) HST cases (gc + IM …
    So, what's up guys?

    Nobody interested anymore to debunk Dr. Coen Gho's HST technique??

    Strange ...

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  • Kiwi
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    Hey IM. What's the deal with Gho and shock loss. Did you experience any?

    Even though I think Gho should freely share his technique to improve the world and that it makes him an egg for not sharing, his procedure is sexy as hell and the closest to scarless FUE on the market.

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  • greatjob!
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    Originally posted by 534623
    Interesting that you bring that up, because I just (no shYt) tried to figure that out myself by searching through all the before photos - and I have tons of them...

    Anyway, I will try to post a few photos where you can see them before having any HSTs. In advance: It frustrates me to see what crazy scars I got at the back of my head for just some §%&?%$ing hairs in the front ...perhaps one reason why I always tried to avoid to look at these photos myself...
    If you don't mind sharing who did your strip procedures I would be interested to know, because the strip extraction sites seems terrible. I really never knew you had undergone multiple bad strip procedures, and now your position makes a lot more sense to me.

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by cocacola
    IM, where is ur hair from ur fut procedures?
    Interesting that you bring that up, because I just (no shYt) tried to figure that out myself by searching through all the before photos - and I have tons of them...

    Anyway, I will try to post a few photos where you can see them before having any HSTs. In advance: It frustrates me to see what crazy scars I got at the back of my head for just some §%&?%$ing hairs in the front ...perhaps one reason why I always tried to avoid to look at these photos myself...

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  • cocacola
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    IM, where is ur hair from ur fut procedures?

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  • c5000
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    Originally posted by 534623
    In my case not really "a lot", but at least a few I noticed ...


    Such grafts, when I make a closer examination, these are

    1) mostly just accidental and superficial (</=1mm deep) cut off hairs.
    That happens when they think that the hairs have the same direction deep in the skin as seen them superfacial - but wasn't the case finally.

    2) simply unable to pull the grafts out from the dermis.

    3) too many drills all at once (>50 or so) and didn't pull out a few;
    In this case, the graft pops out of the hole a little it, starts immediately to shrink and/or to dry out and sheds finally.

    4) Various combinations among 1)-3);

    Anyway, as long as you can see a round/oval crust surrunding 1-3 hairs, custs, which look like tiny potato chips, such "grafts" are indeed grafts due to the HST drilling - and not any "shock loss" hairs.
    It's good to hear that you have experienced this to some degree as well. Will these donor hairs/grafts grow back?

    So how many more procedures do you think you will need for a full head of hair?

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by c5000

    Did you find that these crusts in the donor fell off with hairs attached?
    In my case not really "a lot", but at least a few I noticed ...


    Such grafts, when I make a closer examination, these are

    1) mostly just accidental and superficial (</=1mm deep) cut off hairs.
    That happens when they think that the hairs have the same direction deep in the skin as seen them superfacial - but wasn't the case finally.

    2) simply unable to pull the grafts out from the dermis.

    3) too many drills all at once (>50 or so) and didn't pull out a few;
    In this case, the graft pops out of the hole a little it, starts immediately to shrink and/or to dry out and sheds finally.

    4) Various combinations among 1)-3);

    Anyway, as long as you can see a round/oval crust surrunding 1-3 hairs, custs, which look like tiny potato chips, such "grafts" are indeed grafts due to the HST drilling - and not any "shock loss" hairs.

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  • c5000
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    Originally posted by 534623
    So far, I could still shave my head down to the bone. What you also can see in the donor-1-week-after photo, are some tiny crusts especially above/behind the ear region, which currently (Day-8) itch like crazy, because the regenerated follicles in the skin try to push out the already produced hair shafts. That means, in the after photo, the complete density isn't even still there...
    Did you find that these crusts in the donor fell off with hairs attached?

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  • ccmethinning
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    Originally posted by hellouser
    Question!!!

    If HASCI typically does about 1,600 grafts per procedure and gives approximately 35 grafts per square centimetre, this means they will cover a total area of 45cm/2;

    1600 / 35 = 45

    That's a LOT of space that 1,600 grafts can cover, its essentially of about 6.7cm x 6.7cm.

    Is my thinking correct? Essentially, for hairline work, this is one of Dr. Gho's examples here with just over 1,300 grafts:

    From this:



    To this:

    Wow that is an awesome result.

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by hellouser

    Question!!!

    If HASCI typically does about 1,600 grafts per procedure and gives approximately 35 grafts per square centimetre, this means they will cover a total area of 45cm/2;

    1600 / 35 = 45

    That's a LOT of space that 1,600 grafts can cover, its essentially of about 6.7cm x 6.7cm.

    Is my thinking correct?
    Try to find it out ...

    *FULL SIZE* for zooming in click here ...

    What you can see in the photos above is the "status" 1 week after my 2nd HST. I got so far all in all 2926 HSTs into the front area (1st HST 1390, 2nd HST 1536) and the remaining 100 HSTs (I bought so far 3016 HSTs all in all) went experimental into one of my old strip scars to see how the HST's work in my scars.

    Anyway, what you also can see in the photos above are 2 yellow encircled "islands"; that means, these 2 small areas remained (interestingly) completely AGA-unaffected since more then 10 years and show, in fact, my NATURAL front area density. That just as a hint ...
    So ALL the other hairs you can see all around these 2 encircled "islands" are ALL implanted hairs.

    And here is my so-called "plan":
    In around 24-36 month, baldness WILL BE a thing of the past for me on one hand, the same or even a somewhat higher density as you can see it in the yellow encircled areas (see photos above), due to progressive and therefore also very safe increase of the density from one treatment to the next - and, of course, thereby always some "fine-tuning" of the hairline itself as well.

    Donor?

    My completely "virgin" donor (in the clinic) BEFORE having any HST's at all...

    *FULL SIZE* for zooming in click here ...
    And finally, 1 week AFTER having my 2nd HST:

    *FULL SIZE* for zooming in click here ...

    So far, I could still shave my head down to the bone. What you also can see in the donor-1-week-after photo, are some tiny crusts especially above/behind the ear region, which currently (Day-8) itch like crazy, because the regenerated follicles in the skin try to push out the already produced hair shafts. That means, in the after photo, the complete density isn't even still there...

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  • Phatalis
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    It's been 4+ months since my hst and I gotta say I was roughly around that pic. Maybe a bit less. I got 1400 grafts. With that said I hope there is more growth because I'm greedy and with that said I'm ****ing beyond happy with my procedure. Brought back my hairline. With a tiny procedure now. I mean like 400 grafts tiny.. it'd be as if I never lost hair. Hopefully I don't lose more anytime soon or ever

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