Debunking HASCI´s regeneration claim - an open letter.

[Arashi]

Read the paper, ask questions etc, whether that be in a forum or directly to Hasci.

What do you want me to say?

I don't know what I want you to say. My point is, we did everything we possibly could do. We asked them to run tests. They didn't really participate (they never showed us good photo's). We went as far as putting in tons of effort to analyze your case. It showed us regeneration at least in your case was bad. I'm really not sure what to do next but just forget about Gho ?

[gc83uk]

Not sure what you're suggesting. What research do you want people to do ?

Read the paper, ask questions etc, whether that be in a forum or directly to Hasci.

What do you want me to say?

[Arashi]

No not at all, I think people should do their own research and due diligence and come to a decision on their own accord. I would hate to wrongly inform people, I'm sure you would too.

Not sure what you're suggesting. What research do you want people to do ?

[gc83uk]

So you're suggesting people who are considering getting a procedure, that if their goal would be regeneration, to just forget about Gho and focus on the other doctors ?

No not at all, I think people should do their own research and due diligence and come to a decision on their own accord. I would hate to wrongly inform people, I'm sure you would too.

[Arashi]

Nothing mate, sorry to say.

From a purely selfish point of view, I'm happy with just not having scarring.

I have taken so many photos, which has taken hours upon hours just to try and help where I can. It would have been nice to know for sure we had regeneration, but it is what it is.

See if anything happens, until then pursue Nigam, Mwamba and Pilofocus.

So you're suggesting people who are considering getting a procedure, that if their goal would be regeneration, to just forget about Gho and focus on the other doctors ?

[gc83uk]

But GC, what do you suggest ? They've never released material on their two 50 graft tests. They stopped replying to new requests. What should we now do in your opinion ?

Nothing mate, sorry to say.

From a purely selfish point of view, I'm happy with just not having scarring.

I have taken so many photos, which has taken hours upon hours just to try and help where I can. It would have been nice to know for sure we had regeneration, but it is what it is.

See if anything happens, until then pursue Nigam, Mwamba and Pilofocus.

[gc83uk]

I disagree. It at least proves that 85% regeneration isn't a given for everybody. And currently it's the best prediction we have.

Ok well we'll have to agree to disagree.

Not much point in discussing it much more anyway, unless they want to say something on the subject. The open letter is there, so let's see what happens.

[Arashi]

But GC, what do you suggest ? They've never released material on their two 50 graft tests. They stopped replying to new requests. What should we now do in your opinion ?

[Arashi]

If my case had worked inline with this 85% claim, then yes it would have been worth something, because if it can work on me, then it can work on anyone.

If it fails on me, then it doesn't disprove too much yet.

I disagree. It at least proves that 85% regeneration isn't a given for everybody. And currently it's the best prediction we have.

[gc83uk]

HASCI never offered an independent patient case study. They did agree to do 2 50 graft tests but they never released any material. All they showed us were some blurry pictures that we couldn't use for analysis. Because we really needed to get an answer, we went through all the effort of analyzing your case. It turned out regeneration is lower than 40% and possibly even 0%. And now you're saying we should just ignore your case ?

If my case had worked inline with this 85% claim, then yes it would have been worth something, because if it can work on me, then it can work on anyone.

If it fails on me, then it doesn't disprove too much yet.

[Arashi]

To remove that claim just on my case doesn't make any sense in my opinion. There will always be exceptions and to be honest I was never told to expect 85% regrowth, I was just pleased somebody would operate on me.

Maybe for more challenging patients, such as those like me with scars combined with lichen planopilaris or similar then they could say there is no guarantees.

As for normal MPB cases, then more patients are needed.

Until then we can prove Jack for any certainty.

HASCI never offered an independent patient case study. They did agree to do 2 50 graft tests when we asked for that, but they never released any material. All they showed us were some blurry pictures that we couldn't use for analysis. Because we really needed to get an answer, we went through all the effort of analyzing your case. It turned out regeneration is lower than 40% and possibly even 0%. And now you're saying we should just ignore your case and return to believing it actually might be 85% like they claim ?

[gc83uk]

I'm not implying that 85% regeneration is impossible. I can't prove or disprove that. All I'm saying that in the first case we studied, yours, it turns out the number is a lot lower. Hence I think they should revise or just totally remove that claim.

To remove that claim just on my case doesn't make any sense in my opinion. There will always be exceptions and to be honest I was never guaranteed 85% regrowth, I don't even know if it was mentioned, nor was there a contract to sign. I was just pleased somebody would operate on me.

Maybe for more challenging patients, such as those like me with scars combined with lichen planopilaris or similar then they could say there is no guarantees.

As for normal MPB cases, then more patients are needed.

Until then we can't prove Jack with any certainty.

[Arashi]

Perhaps on just me, but you can't base any certainty just on 1 case mate.

I'm not implying that 85% regeneration is impossible. I can't prove or disprove that. All I'm saying that in the first case we studied, yours, it turns out the number is a lot lower. Hence I think they should revise or just totally remove that claim.

[gc83uk]

For sure we'd need more cases to get a good idea. But until now, HASCI made it look like anyone would have 85% regeneration. That certainly seems to be false.

Perhaps on just me, but you can't base any certainty just on 1 case mate.

Let's just see if they have anything to say on it and if they don't then time to move on for the non believers of multiplication. If it were advertised as scarless fue then I think nobody would have any problems with that, so until then not much more can be said.

Start praying for Nigam/Mwamba lol

[Arashi]

True, but you need more cases and the paper shouldn't be ignored.

I'm not the ideal patient, you know that for reasons that's not worth repeating again. I'm probably the least normal person when it comes to hairloss you'll ever know.

For sure we'd need more cases to get a good idea. But until now, HASCI made it look like anyone would have 85% regeneration. That certainly seems to be false.