I'm not trying to stir up the debate again, since it has been beaten to death. I'm just trying to understand how, if he is getting 1hair for 1hair, the hair to graft ratio is so low in the recipient area. Is this because they are not able to transplant anything higher than 2 hair grafts? Like they are not able to move 3 hair grafts?
a second HST session in september
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No, that's not a valid conclusion. They just seem to transplant mainly single hair grafts. That doesn't necessarily have to mean that they just split grafts. We'll just have to wait until gc83uk is going to document his procedure, september this year. That will finally yield the data we're still looking for.Comment
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I'm not trying to stir up the debate again, since it has been beaten to death. I'm just trying to understand how, if he is getting 1hair for 1hair, the hair to graft ratio is so low in the recipient area. Is this because they are not able to transplant anything higher than 2 hair grafts? Like they are not able to move 3 hair grafts?Comment
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No, that's not a valid conclusion. They just seem to transplant mainly single hair grafts. That doesn't necessarily have to mean that they just split grafts. We'll just have to wait until gc83uk is going to document his procedure, september this year. That will finally yield the data we're still looking for.Comment
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Anyway, let's try together to define "more"; for example:
Did you notice that baldies very of mention (after having a consultation with a normal hair transplant doctor) and say "They told me that most of my FU's (follicular units) in my donor area are just singles."
Generally speaking, the multi-FU story and/or the "more hair for your buck"-story, has always been nothing more than an overhyped story among HT clinics to fool layman. And even those patients who have indeed lots of multis in their donor area ...
1) most of these multis are not even suitable for harvestation (follicles too far apart) - not even with normal FUE.
2) multis are rather prone to become singles (again, because as a fetus, you start with SINGLES which just divide over time/after birth and become finally "FUs") anyhow over time (due to aging aka "senescent alopecia" etc);
By the way ...
1) Who has more follicles within his scalp? Daddy or junior?
Both around the same amount of follicles?
2) When in a natural way the head in general, as well as the SCALP size increases over time - where do the additional follicles/hairs come from to fill up the step-by-step increased scalp area?
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Did you notice that baldies very of mention (after having a consultation with a normal hair transplant doctor) and say "They told me that most of my FU's (follicular units) in my donor area are just singles."
Generally speaking, the multi-FU story and/or the "more hair for your buck"-story, has always been nothing more than an overhyped story among HT clinics to fool layman.
They claim the average hair/fu ratio is around 2.5 hairs/fu, however I believe it is closer to 2 hairs/fu. If what you are saying that "most of my fu's in my donor area are just singles" was true than the hair/fu ratio would be very close to 1 hair/fu, which is what it seems to be with Dr. Gho's work. Which means he is primarily moving single hairs. So again I wonder why he is transplanting only singles if he can transplant multi hair fu's, since you cannot argue that more hairs gives more coverage.
I'm not trying to argue, I'm just trying to understand why you would choose to transplant only singles if you could transplant doubles and triples that's all, so please don't take a rude or condescending tone like you usually do. If there is something I'm missing like the needles he uses are too small and he takes that trade off of moving less hair to ensure no scarring then I can understand that.Comment
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Everything you wrote here is pretty much false. Sure there are people with a low hair/fu ratio, but most people have more doubles/triple hairs than they do singles. I had a previous transplant and I had 578 singles, 1926 doubles, and 836 triples giving me a graft to hair ratio of 2.08 hairs/graft.
Maybe guys HAD such ratios before having their 1st hair transplant. That means, how many doubles and triples will Dr. Gho now find in your donor area for harvestation?
Strip? Oh, and who says that you indeed had so much REAL 2-hair FU's or so much REAL 3-hair FU's in your donor area??
Let me guess - your strip doctor ...who simply made them on his chopping board to 2- and 3-hair grafts.
If you don't understand what I mean - watch that video ...
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That's right - you had.
Maybe guys HAD such ratios before having their 1st hair transplant. That means, how many doubles and triples will Dr. Gho now find in your donor area for harvestation?
Strip? Oh, and who says that you indeed had so much REAL 2-hair FU's or so much REAL 3-hair FU's in your donor area??
Let me guess - your strip doctor ...who simply made them on his chopping board to 2- and 3-hair grafts.
If you don't understand what I mean - watch that video ...
http://youtu.be/2zZ8sOYjroo
How does removing a strip of scalp magically transform the remaining multi hair fu's to singles? The graft ratio was from the strip removed, not my entire head. If Dr. Gho examines my head he will find the same ratio as my strip throughout the rest of my donor.
I'm confused are you disputing the fact that hair naturally grows in 1,2,3,4 hair groupings and saying the only way to transplant multi hair fu's is to combine singles?Comment
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'In human scalp, the majority of the hair emerges as
2-hair follicular units. The second most common unit
is the 3-hair unit. Only in individuals with very low
hair density (with severe male pattern baldness) are
the 1-hair units more abundant than the 3-hair units.'Comment
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Where are you getting all this bullshit ? Do a search for people who posted their graft breakdown. You'll see 95% of the times that they transplanted more doubles than singles. Except of course at HASCI, pretty much the only clinic who doesn't even give a graft breakdown. And now we know why ...Comment
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Where are you getting all this bullshit ? Do a search for people who posted their graft breakdown. You'll see 95% of the times that they transplanted more doubles than singles. Except of course at HASCI, pretty much the only clinic who doesn't even give a graft breakdown. And now we know why ...Comment
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I was kind of shocked when he kept denying how many grafts were in that petridish, even when shown the photo again. His reality is so distorted that even if evidence is right in front of him, he'll just look the other way.Comment
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IM sounds like some brainwashed SS nazi,
after seeing petri dish everyone lost interest in hst, both HT doctors and prospective patients, petri was final nail in the coffin
Nobody even bothers asking hard questions about hst...photos and 2 failed tests sum it upComment
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