Raising money for 50 graft HST test procedure

[Arashi]

I will explain one more time (last time) so even someone like Didi will hopefully understand.

Let's say we record the whole thing and have somebody supervise. Everything goes normal, no "funny things" happening and even the person supervising says everything was totall legit. Then, later that day when the person supervising went home and camera is turned off, they eject the transplanted grafts and take grafts elsewhere.

Conclusion: if the patient is in on it, then recording, supervising is of exactly 0 use. If the patient is NOT in on it, then why record and supervise in the first place, when he just verifies himself no 'funny stuff' is going on ?

[Arashi]

Video record whole session+we have patient from dutch forum who will be there, how is that a bad thing?
If i live in Holland Id go to hasci studio on 8th of April and supervise procedure..
opportunity like this donst come around very often

You still don't get it. I don't know how to explain it better than I just did. You're defending your house, you've put a metal frontdoor in, you've installed camera's at your frontdoor, put electricity on your frontdoor and now you want to install a minefield around your frontdoor. While your backdoor is still wide open. What good is that ?

Really, supervising everything, recording the whole thing on video, tell me, what will it proof ? It's of exactly 0 use. I for one am not going to ask HASCI to do all this when there's 0 use. It would just be extremely embarrasing.

[didi]

Yes, I know already the best detail about this test:

If everything goes well,
and every graft regenerates at both sites -
recipient and donor area AND everything with the same characteristics ...

... didi will definitely buy his 1st HST procedure!!

Oh, yeah ...

How do you know Didi didnt buy his HST procedure already?

but still not sure whats growing and how its growing...

this will be epic...


I think TEST should be broadcast live on internet

[534623]

Do we know details of Gho test...

Yes, I know already the best detail about this test:

If everything goes well,
and every graft regenerates at both sites -
recipient and donor area AND everything with the same characteristics ...

... didi will definitely buy his 1st HST procedure!!

Oh, yeah ...

[didi]

Really, you are not thinking this through. A video just adds a FALSE sense of security. The only REAL security you can have is an independent patient who verifies no funny stuff is going on (after the camera is turned off) and also shoots and posts his own photo's. And if you disagree, please do tell me, what exactly will a video proof according to you ?

Video record whole session+we have patient from dutch forum who will be there, how is that a bad thing?

If i live in Holland Id go to hasci studio on 8th of April and supervise procedure..
opportunity like this donst come around very often


Do we know details of Gho test
where is he going to implant grafts, how many 1s,2s,3s


hope dutch dude starts posting on TBT

[Gandolf]

Can you do me a huge favor???? Can you stop being so goddamn sarcastic and shit in all your posts... like... passive aggressive in every post?

You're asking him to fundamentally change the entire core of his personality.

[Arashi]

video record the whole session, it will take 45 minutes

Really, you are not thinking this through. A video just adds a FALSE sense of security. The only REAL security you can have is an independent patient who verifies no funny stuff is going on (after the camera is turned off) and also shoots and posts his own photo's. And if you disagree, please do tell me, what exactly will a video proof according to you ?

[Arashi]

An even better way would be to simply record the procedure, so we can see the grafts being taken out, bisected and implanted. I guess the procedure would be maybe 45 mins of recording time at a rough guess.

So he does all that (what you just described), turns off the camera, ejects the transplanted hairs, get 15 grafts elsewhere and implant those. Fraud couldn't be easier.

That's why I'm saying it's totally useless to record a video. It's like adding nine layers of security to you front door and then leave the back door wide open. What good is that ?

Again, only (and only) the patient can verify no 'funny stuff' is going on. That's why it's totally useless to perform this on a staff member.

[534623]

Sorry I wasn't trying to be mean. I guess I'm just frustrated. I just really want this to work out haha. I'm about to do it.

I think you shouldn't do it, because ...

...there are extremely knowledgeable guys out there who know it better.

These guys/users (see the pic), today, they try -all of a sudden- to kiss Dr. Nigam's ass
at the same hair loss forum and just a few month later...

If you would like to know more about the reason why they changed their mind...
... please let me know.

[Phatalis]

Let's see again what the science is saying about "sarcasm"...

http://67.227.210.96/showpost.php?p=87642&postcount=50

Sorry, but this is simply my nature - as you can see and hear such a "behaviour" also by other extremely intelligent persons who get bored about so many idiots who "think" that they are intelligent.

Just kidding - I think in your case, I'll do you the favor.

Anyway, who cares what somebody is saying, when "the facts" like photos etc should tell you more than a thousand words.

Sorry I wasn't trying to be mean. I guess I'm just frustrated. I just really want this to work out haha. I'm about to do it.

[534623]

It's ****ing confusing to people.. sarcasm is harder to get over text... when not in person... and sometimes your posts actually don't make much sense to begin with.

Let's see again what the science is saying about "sarcasm"...

http://67.227.210.96/showpost.php?p=87642&postcount=50

I'm not trying to be mean because I love all the facts you provide in your posts... it's awesome and reassuring.. but seriously... please just be direct and stop with the damn passive aggressive sarcasm bullshit lol.

Sorry, but this is simply my nature - as you can see and hear such a "behaviour" also by other extremely intelligent persons who get bored about so many idiots who "think" that they are intelligent.

Just kidding - I think in your case, I'll do you the favor.

Anyway, who cares what somebody is saying, when "the facts" like photos etc should tell you more than a thousand words.

[Phatalis]

You're right - makes absolutely no sense ...

...because there is absolutely no difference between such small skin grafts ...

Full Size: http://www.drnigams.net/images/Ratan/large/17.jpg


...as extracted such "grafts" today by Dr. Nigam with a 0.8 mm punch...

... and versus Dr. Gho's HST grafts:


Yup, absolutely no difference ...

Can you do me a huge favor???? Can you stop being so goddamn sarcastic and shit in all your posts... like... passive aggressive in every post?

The reason I ask is not that I take one side or another. I hope Gho's technique works and I'm currently talking with them about a procedure literally right now. (I have the vibe youre on Gho's side)...

The real reason I ask this of you is that I can't tell what the hell you're ever saying in your posts. I don't know when you're being serious or sarcastic or what? Sometimes you'll post things like "Gho's technique has flaws don't do it" (though not that direct) and I take it for being legit... yet I realized later you're being sarcastic.

It's ****ing confusing to people.. sarcasm is harder to get over text... when not in person... and sometimes your posts actually don't make much sense to begin with.

I'm not trying to be mean because I love all the facts you provide in your posts... it's awesome and reassuring.. but seriously... please just be direct and stop with the damn passive aggressive sarcasm bullshit lol.

[534623]

video record the whole session, it will take 45 minutes , no need to video grafts bathing in petri dish.

You're right - makes absolutely no sense ...

...because there is absolutely no difference between such small skin grafts ...

Full Size: http://www.drnigams.net/images/Ratan/large/17.jpg


...as extracted such "grafts" today by Dr. Nigam with a 0.8 mm punch...

... and versus Dr. Gho's HST grafts:


Yup, absolutely no difference ...

[didi]

video record the whole session, it will take 45 minutes , no need to video grafts bathing in petri dish.
others cant copy it by watching video, it looks like just another fue procedure

they drill donor, extract, place grafts in petri dish(wait 1 h), drill holes in recipient, implant.

[censur]

I guess the most effective documentation would be to video-record the whole session. However, that would perhaps increase the risk of other surgeons copying the procedure without paying Gho any license fee, which I guess Gho wouldn't like very much?