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  • garethbale
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    Originally posted by 534623
    Okay - "His mother is a bitch - correct me if I'm wrong."

    Is this English correct? So, how can he prove now, whether or not his mother is a bitch, I mean, in case if I'm wrong?
    How can he correct me?
    you're talking bollocks again...

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by garethbale
    'If I'm not mistaken' simply means 'correct me if I'm wrong'...you need to improve your grasp of understanding English phrases...
    Okay - "His mother is a bitch - correct me if I'm wrong."

    Is this English correct? So, how can he prove now, whether or not his mother is a bitch, I mean, in case if I'm wrong?
    How can he correct me?

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  • garethbale
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    Originally posted by 534623
    Really?


    Can you at least try to explain from WHERE you got your "if I'm not mistaken" story? I mean, it's normal in such forums like this forum that not just normal users make claims out of their ass - even doctors. And if everybody would just make claims out of this ass - what's the sense of such forums?

    btw, your mother is a bitch - I mean, if I'm not mistaken ...
    What the hell are you talking about you idiot, and why are you insulting him?! He wasn't attacking Gho...why are you so defensive of Gho anyway?

    'If I'm not mistaken' simply means 'correct me if I'm wrong'...you need to improve your grasp of understanding English phrases...

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  • Boldy
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    Originally posted by 534623
    Really?


    Can you at least try to explain from WHERE you got your "if I'm not mistaken" story? I mean, it's normal in such forums like this forum that not just normal users make claims out of their ass - even doctors. And if everybody would just make claims out of this ass - what's the sense of such forums?

    btw, your mother is a bitch - I mean, if I'm not mistaken ...
    Okay, I guess, I was right about this forum...

    If you don't even read the posted studies.. these claims are backedup by references.

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by Boldy
    Gho's procedure leaves the bottom side of the hairfolicle intact in the donor area.. if i'm not mistaken! and that part contains the dp.
    Really?


    Can you at least try to explain from WHERE you got your "if I'm not mistaken" story? I mean, it's normal in such forums like this forum that not just normal users make claims out of their ass - even doctors. And if everybody would just make claims out of this ass - what's the sense of such forums?

    btw, your mother is a bitch - I mean, if I'm not mistaken ...
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  • Boldy
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    I'm going to focus on the the technique + the studies that support it rather than the pictures. I

    can't tell if pictures are real(maybe its just a regular ht or so,,), But what I can tell is if the procedure/ the technique is correct/ real..


    Its better to stay objective
    @ neversaynever the 70% is from the aderans website. and the studies that show what hapens when you inject cultured dp cells .

    the current goal is to achieve the best method for culturing these cells. I still have allot of reading to get a better understanding of the current possibilities.


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  • neversaynever
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    Originally posted by 534623
    He says Dr. Gho produces with his HST technique "poor quality hair".

    didi, I don’t understand you …


    Why don’t you buy Dr. Nigam’s stem cell hair multiplication procedure?

    As you can CLEARLY see, you can have 40,000 plus QUALITY HAIR just in 3,5 month!!

    Buy it – and enjoy your new 40,000 plus QUALITY HAIRS!

    Furthermore, in case if just 39,896 QUALITY HAIRS grow in your recipient area with Dr. Nigam’s stem cell hair multiplication procedure, you can always add the remaining 104 hairs with Dr. Umar’s 3-hair body hair grafts procedure - to thicken-up any hairless gaps.
    Please dont pollute the thread with your bitter sarcasm. Noone has said they will get treatment with Nigam, we merely having a discussion.

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  • neversaynever
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    Originally posted by Boldy
    Yes indeed, its actually explained in the study I posted. the part of the folicle that Gho transplants contains the dermal sheeth.


    in this case in the donor area, there still will be a Dermal papilla that will recreate the damage (dermal sheeth, subaceaus gland, etc)


    the upper part that will be inpanted in the host area WILL recreate a dermal papilla cell. in this case you can indeed call it doubling...(if everything goes well)

    I can only recommend to read the study I posted, its very useful.








    I'm curious how you get that information, do you have a source?, the trials and studies Claim that it Is possible to recreate immortal hairfolicles from Human Dermal papilla , or Dermal sheeth cells... and that the success rate currently is 70%.

    the current issue is more, How can we achieve as much as possible doublings with minimal donor dp cells. and without that they loose their ability to recreate hair after couple pasages.

    this topic might be usefull.


    http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/m...&enterthread=y

    I agree that theory backs this, but what 70% are you referring too? Im basing my info on human trials conducted by replicel, aderans. Noone has injected cultured cells into human scalp and seen amazing growth, have they?

    Im not saying that its a fail at all, just that so far some more work needs to be done.

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by didi
    534623

    how can we be so sure HM will be avail in next few years,


    'with poor quality hair', i didnt understand this part,
    He says Dr. Gho produces with his HST technique "poor quality hair".

    didi, I don’t understand you …


    Why don’t you buy Dr. Nigam’s stem cell hair multiplication procedure?

    As you can CLEARLY see, you can have 40,000 plus QUALITY HAIR just in 3,5 month!!

    Buy it – and enjoy your new 40,000 plus QUALITY HAIRS!

    Furthermore, in case if just 39,896 QUALITY HAIRS grow in your recipient area with Dr. Nigam’s stem cell hair multiplication procedure, you can always add the remaining 104 hairs with Dr. Umar’s 3-hair body hair grafts procedure - to thicken-up any hairless gaps.
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  • neversaynever
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    Originally posted by Boldy
    Gho's procedure leaves the bottom side of the hairfolicle intact in the donor area.. if i'm not mistaken! and that part contains the dp.
    youre not mistaken

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  • Boldy
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    Originally posted by 534623
    The dermal papilla? Not really ...
    Gho's procedure leaves the bottom side of the hairfolicle intact in the donor area.. if i'm not mistaken! and that part contains the dp.

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by Boldy
    Yes indeed, its actually explained in the study I posted. the part of the folicle that Gho transplants contains the dermal sheeth.


    in this case in the donor area, there still will be a Dermal papilla that will recreate the damage (dermal sheeth, subaceaus gland, etc)
    The dermal papilla? Not really ...

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  • Boldy
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    Originally posted by neversaynever
    Nice post gangster boy, but still, aderans nor replicel have created new follicles in their trials. Aderans are getting some re-growth, so hopefully its compoundable...


    It essentially is an issue with multiplication. Its proven that a partial follicle can regenerate into a full follicle, but so far there has been no resounding success with cultured cells.

    Perhaps the issue is the tissue surrounding the follicle? When Gho implants, it has some tissue with it, which might contain extra factors that allow a follicle to grow, even in AGA scalp.

    Could you shed your thoughts on that? Stick around on this forum please. You've always made sense in your posts.

    Yes indeed, its actually explained in the study I posted. the part of the folicle that Gho transplants contains the dermal sheeth.


    in this case in the donor area, there still will be a Dermal papilla that will recreate the damage (dermal sheeth, subaceaus gland, etc)


    the upper part that will be inpanted in the host area WILL recreate a dermal papilla cell. in this case you can indeed call it doubling...(if everything goes well)

    I can only recommend to read the study I posted, its very useful.






    It essentially is an issue with multiplication. Its proven that a partial follicle can regenerate into a full follicle, but so far there has been no resounding success with cultured cells.
    I'm curious how you get that information, do you have a source?, the trials and studies Claim that it Is possible to recreate immortal hairfolicles from Human Dermal papilla , or Dermal sheeth cells... and that the success rate currently is 70%.

    the current issue is more, How can we achieve as much as possible doublings with minimal donor dp cells. and without that they loose their ability to recreate hair after couple pasages.

    this topic might be usefull.


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  • neversaynever
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    Originally posted by Boldy
    @ DR nigams, what is the success rate you have archived so far , with the DS cells culture. DR Gho, promises 20% for patients with skin burns.
    With cultured cells nigam claims 50% sucess rate (those with very good results). And many need fue to back it up a bit, because the regrowth works better in some areas and not others.

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  • neversaynever
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    Nice post gangster boy, but still, aderans nor replicel have created new follicles in their trials. Aderans are getting some re-growth, so hopefully its compoundable...


    It essentially is an issue with multiplication. Its proven that a partial follicle can regenerate into a full follicle, but so far there has been no resounding success with cultured cells.

    Perhaps the issue is the tissue surrounding the follicle? When Gho implants, it has some tissue with it, which might contain extra factors that allow a follicle to grow, even in AGA scalp.

    Could you shed your thoughts on that? Stick around on this forum please. You've always made sense in your posts.

    Leave a comment:

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