Hidden Gem -> MSM/Vit C & TRX2 - a fin alternative?

[gutted]

I'm sorry gutted but I fail to see how this is a positive sign. Did you mean temporary dormancy before the hair regrows stronger?

To me permanent dormancy would mean they are never coming back.

in my experince when i notice a severe itch. (a pretty severe one) the hairs fall out in that region of the scalp and never come back. Its very very important to get the itch under control.

i meant the positive sign is the reduction in itch, this makes permanent dormancy pretty much impossible.

[Cob984]

gutted, whats your opinion on mrblonde's rapid hair thinning inspite of not being on dht blockers previously??

my hair looks horrible even with conditioner, its so thin, i am seeing scalp everywhere, could it be msm unnaturally boosting growth which compromises on hair quality ?

[Irishamerica]

gutted, whats your opinion on mrblonde's rapid hair thinning inspite of not being on dht blockers previously??

my hair looks horrible even with conditioner, its so thin, i am seeing scalp everywhere, could it be msm unnaturally boosting growth which compromises on hair quality ?

The MSM wouldnt unnaturally boost growth its a vital nutrient that are bodies lack becasue of natural cooking methods i think you will find when taking it propely it has numerous helth benafits not just hairgrowth . I have had an oily scalp and itch and well has oily face since i was 15 in which hasnnt passed even though i am now 27 ...The msm combp has sevely cut down the oil produciton on my face/hair .I am no longer "greasey". The large amount of oil production on the skin collect together and become infected with bacteria this is what causes acne .

The same goes for the scalp now that oil production has been minimised less bactria will form at the roots which is thought to contribute to hairloss .
Not saying that this will be the god scent gift for all hairloss suffers but I believe it surely helps people in the early stages of hairloss .


My routine is the combo with reganpure dr/nr twice a week and oan organic sulfate/parfan nautral shampoo on other days .

[gutted]

gutted, whats your opinion on mrblonde's rapid hair thinning inspite of not being on dht blockers previously??

my hair looks horrible even with conditioner, its so thin, i am seeing scalp everywhere, could it be msm unnaturally boosting growth which compromises on hair quality ?

MrBlonde's hair is thinning because i dont recall him treating his hairloss with anything until now. His thinning is pureley down to mpb progression. If your not treating your mpb its pretty obvious you will thin out/lose hair. Now that hes on the combo, at 12 months he may see some visible results.

msm wont cause any detrimental effects on your hair. If you do notice an increase in "shedding" this is NOT "hair loss" just your hair shedding to return a few months down the line. Which is what happens to all of us, even those who do not bald.

the fact that this solves increased oil production, which is also androgen driven, is enough to put faith into msm and msm only WITHOUT using dht blockers (dht blockers can reduce oil too but the effect is temporary).

Ive had oil production practically cease, i have no more scalp oil what so ever.

[ovoxo]

gutted what do you think of taking msm like for example 3g in the morning then 3g afternoon and 3g in the evening, or you should really take 9g all together?

[gutted]

gutted what do you think of taking msm like for example 3g in the morning then 3g afternoon and 3g in the evening, or you should really take 9g all together?

it shouldnt be an issue. You should make sure you take it WITH the vitamin C.

[Jcm800]

it shouldnt be an issue. You should make sure you take it WITH the vitamin C.

Hmm I take msm am and pm, but only in the pm with vit c, perhaps I'm going wrong that way then.

[gutted]

Hmm I take msm am and pm, but only in the pm with vit c, perhaps I'm going wrong that way then.

no the sign that its working is increased nail and hair growth. since youve already noted this effect, i presume your gaining the adequate amount. Although its best to take the vitC with the msm.

[Jcm800]

no the sign that its working is increased nail and hair growth. since youve already noted this effect, i presume your gaining the adequate amount. Although its best to take the vitC with the msm.

Fair comment. My nails are strong and my existing hair is a mop so ill assume I'm on the right track, just wish I could see signs of regrowth, but early days really

[2020]

This study claims that Glutathione levels decline in your scalp as we age:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2929555/

could it be that baldness is the result of that?


Next month or so when I''l have my finances in order, I'll start taking these:

http://www.livonlabs.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.cgi/315.1.470274921110542354/liposome-encapsulated/products.html

Lypo-SphericTM Vitamin C --- which is equivalent to about 10,000 mg of real vitamin C which goes straight to your cells and is fat soluble -> lasts all day

Lypo-SphericTM GSH --- larges doses of real active glutathione. No amount of MSM will ever come to close to making that much glutathione.


yes, it's ~$120/month but we'll see if it's worth it

[gutted]

Fair comment. My nails are strong and my existing hair is a mop so ill assume I'm on the right track, just wish I could see signs of regrowth, but early days really

If your maintaining thats an acheivement in itself. If you ahve diffuse areas you'll see them fill in with time.

[gutted]

Gutted, I bought MSM powder like you.
How do you take it ? Just shove it in your mouth with some water ? Cause it really tastes terrible.

And how much is three grams ? Half a tee spoon ? A third of a tea spoon ?

mine are in capsules so i cant taste them. Yes with water and vitc. Im not sure, you would need to measure it somehow.

[RisingFist]

Hey gutted I've seen some of your posts on immortalhair...I've been taking low dose msm for the past 2 months. I've decided to up my dose to 6 grams. I also take 1 gram of pure way vit c.

I also take other supplements that I hope will help rather the. Get in the way. They are curcumin/reversatrol, ecklonia cava extract, vit A and D in tandem. Vit k2 big doses for calcification. B vitamins, krill oil, Quercetin, magnesium citrate, selenium and will probably start iodine.

I'm also trying to deal with heavy metal detox which will take a couple of months.

I'm gonna take some supplements to increase glutathione production as well. I have had diffuse hair loss for a couple of years now and my temples and sides are taking a beating.

[Jcm800]

If your maintaining thats an acheivement in itself. If you ahve diffuse areas you'll see them fill in with time.

I am shedding, but don't see much in the shower at all really. Hairline IS thinning, but it's had 14 month's of minox applied to it which isn't supporting it now (if it ever did) In fairness, the dread shed ive anticipated since quitting it around 3 months back still hasn't hit like i expected. I'm hoping it won't now, and that perhaps this combo has abated it to some degree.

I DO see a few mini hairs on a slick centre parting area that has been sparse for a very long time, hoping this is a sign of activity..

[gutted]

Hey gutted I've seen some of your posts on immortalhair...I've been taking low dose msm for the past 2 months. I've decided to up my dose to 6 grams. I also take 1 gram of pure way vit c.

I also take other supplements that I hope will help rather the. Get in the way. They are curcumin/reversatrol, ecklonia cava extract, vit A and D in tandem. Vit k2 big doses for calcification. B vitamins, krill oil, Quercetin, magnesium citrate, selenium and will probably start iodine.

I'm also trying to deal with heavy metal detox which will take a couple of months.

I'm gonna take some supplements to increase glutathione production as well. I have had diffuse hair loss for a couple of years now and my temples and sides are taking a beating.

hi, great. good luck with it, but i believe all of that isnt necassary. Although there may be the possibility that they interact with efficacy, you should perhaps think about dropping some of those in the future if you dont notice any change in invisible as well as visible results, and restart on the msm/C alone and follow the timeline from start to finish.