Hidden Gem -> MSM/Vit C & TRX2 - a fin alternative?

[Ginkosama]

Cob, Revivogen is a waste of time and money. Plus if it does no direct harm, it makes your hair greasy and facilitates itching.
Kind regards.

[gutted]

im not using sp? i have taken 3 capsules last week, apart from that i have been off it for almost 5 weeks now, anyone in their right mind know 3 capsules of 120 mg is nothing,

i am still using revivogen and thats it thought, no internal blockers, i clearly remember you saying there was a risk with rev but it should be ok otherwise

ok. No that shouldnt have much of an effect but you need to decide what you want to use and stick with it. No going back and forth. Your posts dont make it clear what you are doing.

as i have stated hair "shedding" is to be expected when you drop an androgen inhibiting substance. You need to wait 3 months before things balance out for you. After the 3 months is when the timeline for results apply to you.

[Cob984]

ok. No that shouldnt have much of an effect but you need to decide what you want to use and stick with it. No going back and forth. Your posts dont make it clear what you are doing.

as i have stated hair "shedding" is to be expected when you drop an androgen inhibiting substance. You need to wait 3 months before things balance out for you. After the 3 months is when the timeline for results apply to you.

I know im all over the place, im a mess, im just using rev cause i have some supplies, might drop it too after im done

i dont know what to do, i just freak out everyday looking in the mirror and then think maybe i should use the sp, my hair is not improving, its worsening, im hoping this stabilization comes soon because its 7 weeks now and i dont see it

[Ginkosama]

Gutted, I bought MSM powder like you.
How do you take it ? Just shove it in your mouth with some water ? Cause it really tastes terrible.

And how much is three grams ? Half a tee spoon ? A third of a tea spoon ?

[gutted]

I know im all over the place, im a mess, im just using rev cause i have some supplies, might drop it too after im done

i dont know what to do, i just freak out everyday looking in the mirror and then think maybe i should use the sp, my hair is not improving, its worsening, im hoping this stabilization comes soon because its 7 weeks now and i dont see it

hair does not improve in a few days, hair improves in weeks to months. Your NOT going to gain the visible results fast, read over the timeline of results.

You already stated in your previous posts you dont "shed hairs" so i dont understand what your problem is? if you dont shed hairs thats good! Although i suspect you are shedding many hairs due to dropping sp. These sheds will calm down at the 3 month mark.

just stay on it consistently and ride it out. This is a long term treatment.

[Cob984]

well i am shedding some hair obv, but its not as bad as it has been previously,

it just looks very thin and limp, and its worsening, very similar to what mr.blonde is going through, my hair is looking thinner everyday, i dont know thats possible but its happening and my family members concur so i doubt im imagining it

[gutted]

well i am shedding some hair obv, but its not as bad as it has been previously,

it just looks very thin and limp, and its worsening, very similar to what mr.blonde is going through, my hair is looking thinner everyday, i dont know thats possible but its happening and my family members concur so i doubt im imagining it

drop the revivogen/sp and get on another shampoo, and just ride this out for a couple of months. stop going back and forth, this will worsen your sheds.

[Cob984]

gutted, just wanted to check, you too experienced rapid gains on sp initially right?

one of the reasons of my impatience is the beautiful sp results for the first few months which basicaly reinstated all my hair overnight has led me to start doubting stuff if i dont see results within weeks

[gutted]

gutted, just wanted to check, you too experienced rapid gains on sp initially right?

one of the reasons of my impatience is the beautiful sp results for the first few months which basicaly reinstated all my hair overnight has led me to start doubting stuff if i dont see results within weeks

yes this was a few years ago. The stuff even bought my hairloss to virtually 0 in a week! it starts to lose this effect in a matter of 3/4 weeks. which is what will happen with you.

[2020]

gutted do you have any recent before and after pictures?

[MrBlonde]

hi to answer your questions.

no when i started the combo, there was no signs of thinning. Its only when i started otehr supplements that caused the thinning. That has slowly reversed itself over the last few months.

yes i have a normal shedding pattern and this is all over, hairline included. Its normal to lose hairs.

No my hairline has stopped receeding, there has been no recession for over a year now. Im confident its staying put. I know on the right side i can see density improving, i also expect this to happen on the left although in a few months time.

you may be shedding if you dropped any androgen inhibiting substances recently or it may just be mpb, although these hairs will return a few months down the line. The reduction in itch is a positive sign. The itch indicates the end of the hair before going into permanent dormancy. Although staying n msm prevents this from happening.

As for the dry strawy texture, that may be because of the decreased oil output that msm has caused. The oil acts as a natrual conditioner hence why it may feel dry and strawy. You should use a conditioner of some sort to counteract this.

You need to stay on it for many more months before you experience the synchronisation of shed rate vs growth rate.

Also bear in mind if people decide to use/introduce anything else such as androgen inhibiting substances in addition to the combo after being on it for 3 or 6+ months, the timeline resets.
You need to go through the whole timeline again if you ever decide to drop the androgen inhibiting substances later down the line. Being on it for 9 months already or whatever has no real merit anymore, you disrupt the cycle/timeline.

I'm sorry gutted but I fail to see how this is a positive sign. Did you mean temporary dormancy before the hair regrows stronger?

To me permanent dormancy would mean they are never coming back.

[MrBlonde]

gutted do you have any recent before and after pictures?

Hows that thread about your regime coming along 2020? The one about vitiman A, niacin etc that you reckon inhibts more dht than fin

[2020]

Hows that thread about your regime coming along 2020? The one about vitiman A, niacin etc that you reckon inhibts more dht than fin

got bored plus I'm changing my regimen too. Will be adding Vitamin C + real and massive doses of Glutathione which I'm suspecting is low for some of us. If MSM works for some of you, then Glutathione will be even better

About TRX2: wouldn't replacing it with high doses of niacinamide be the same? I can't take something unless I know what exactly it does

[Jcm800]

AgainstThis - lets have a picture update please chap, link your first set from the pretty much defunct trx2 thread, to present day pics if you'd be so kind? From what you're saying, changes should be visible..

[gutted]

gutted do you have any recent before and after pictures?

yes i have pictures, which i use to compare progress but im not going to post them on here...