Hidden Gem -> MSM/Vit C & TRX2 - a fin alternative?

[gutted]

I'm taking MSM from solal technologies and there's only 700mg per capsule..

That means over 9 capsules a day to get 9 grams..

What brand are you taking?

doctors best brand

i use this -> http://www.amazon.com/Doctors-Best-1.../dp/B000NRXNRC

[Cob984]

thanks gutted,
I would love to believe this works but am still skeptical of getting off the dht blocker for such an extended trial, believe it or not my balding rather thinning is incredibly aggressive, even a few weeks of getting off saw palmetto deteriorates my hair like crazy. In fact inspite of the sides i was thinking of getting on fin and talking zma and dim with it or an antiaromatose for the sides.
I am just worried that i spend all this time on this treatment and i lose a lot of time to mpb. Besides if this is like an oral minox , shouldnt this also work well with somthing like FIN/SP? i see your explanation but am still a bit confused

[ammin]

@Gutted- First time poster here. Just so I am clear 6 gms of MSM/ 1-4 gms of Vit C should be enough to stop hair loss in it's tracks.

I use Nizoral and Hairomega 3 in 1 as anti-androgens. Should I stop using those to allow MSM/Vit C combo to take its purported effect?

Incidentally, I am taking Viviscal and lasercomb as growth factors.

Look forward to your cues.


Thanks!

[gutted]

@Gutted- First time poster here. Just so I am clear 6 gms of MSM/ 1-4 gms of Vit C should be enough to stop hair loss in it's tracks.

yeah. I would stick to 9 grams maintenance dose for the first 2/3 months and then reduce to 6 if you want but 6grams is ok. Vitc - anything between 1gram to 4grams per day is enough.

I use Nizoral and Hairomega 3 in 1 as anti-androgens. Should I stop using those to allow MSM/Vit C combo to take its purported effect?

Incidentally, I am taking Viviscal and lasercomb as growth factors.

Look forward to your cues.


Thanks!

nizoral 1% is ok but i reccomend tgel. As for the dht blockers, its better to phase it out or stop completley and wait for everything to balance out and return to normal, this can take 1-3 months. Be sure to take the msm/vitc combo as soon as you drop the dht blockers.

laser comb works in a similar fashion as trx2, but not neccassary as for viviscal, again its not neccassary, you can drop it if you wish.

[ammin]

Appreciate it Gutted !

Two final Questions.

What about the use of topical anti-androgens like Revivogen Scalp Therapy alongside MSM/Vitamin C ? Will that affect your suggested combo's efficacy?

Secondly, do you think we could use this combo until the next set of side-effect free treatments (CB-03-01, PGD2 Inhibitors) emerge? In other words , is it safe to ingest the recommended MSM/Vit C dosage for the next 5 years?

[nw2kid]

Why do you not recommend msm/vit c with dht blockers? You claim it will keep hairs from going dormant. Isn't that beating mpb?

[gutted]

Appreciate it Gutted !

One final Question.

What about the use of topical anti-androgens like Revivogen Scalp Therapy alongside MSM/Vitamin C ? Will that affect your suggested combo's efficacy?

it may be ok, but this combo should be enough alone.

[gutted]

Why do you not recommend msm/vit c with dht blockers? You claim it will keep hairs from going dormant. Isn't that beating mpb?

i dont reccomend any dht blockers with the combo?

Using dht blockers causes an upregulation that affecs the efficacy of the combo hence why i dont recomend it. All that is needed is msm, vitc to stop mpb and for more regrowth the trx2 ingredients.

[gutted]

thanks gutted,
I would love to believe this works but am still skeptical of getting off the dht blocker for such an extended trial, believe it or not my balding rather thinning is incredibly aggressive, even a few weeks of getting off saw palmetto deteriorates my hair like crazy. In fact inspite of the sides i was thinking of getting on fin and talking zma and dim with it or an antiaromatose for the sides.
I am just worried that i spend all this time on this treatment and i lose a lot of time to mpb. Besides if this is like an oral minox , shouldnt this also work well with somthing like FIN/SP? i see your explanation but am still a bit confused

yes i understand where you are coming from and does require a leap of faith on your part, but im confident this will work on anyone. The invisible resuts (the decerease in the mpb symptoms) are pretty fast and you DO NOT neccassarily have to wait that long to tell whether or not this combo will be working for you in the longer term like you have to with propecia.

Im pretty confident using this combo with any sort of dht blockers will not yeild any sort of visbile results only that the hairs will remain active and prevent them from going dormant. You can have a try and find out the hard way but you should be aware to NOT expect thicker hair/or denser hair, and even if you do, it will be from the propecia, which is short lived.

As for the aggressive balders perhaps trying and staying at a 12 grams per day maintenance dose may help.

[ammin]

"Im pretty confident using this combo with any sort of dht blockers will not yeild any sort of visbile results only that the hairs will remain active and prevent them from going dormant. E]"

Sorry to belabor the point but does your conviction apply as robustly to topical DHT blockers- like Revivogen scalp therapy too

[MrBlonde]

Gutted you seem pretty sure its best to use this combo on its own for the best results. You don't think oral DHT blockers will yield the best results and you also recommend taking MSM/VitC and TRX2 on an empty stomach right? For maximum efficacy.

Would you also advise a person to drop any other supplements they may be taking. Biotin, Lipoic acid, Reversatol and turmeric curcumin etc?

There are some natural DHT lowering vitamins out there also such as aged Garlic extract and Omega 3 (more for PGD2 lowering). Would it be a bad idea to take these in between doses of MSM and TRX2?

[gutted]

Gutted you seem pretty sure its best to use this combo on its own for the best results. You don't think oral DHT blockers will yield the best results and you also recommend taking MSM/VitC and TRX2 on an empty stomach right? For maximum efficacy.

Would you also advise a person to drop any other supplements they may be taking. Biotin, Lipoic acid, Reversatol and turmeric curcumin etc?

There are some natural DHT lowering vitamins out there also such as aged Garlic extract and Omega 3 (more for PGD2 lowering). Would it be a bad idea to take these in between doses of MSM and TRX2?

you can take on an empty stomach or 30 mins after food.

i dont reccomend anything else since, they may interact with the efficacy, so far only msm/vit c and trx2 (for regrowth) are required alone, so it would be best to drop the other supplements they are on for hair related reasons. Msm/vit c is pretty much cost effective.

As for the aged garlic extract and the curcumin, which i tried along with the combo, did induce a shed for reasons im not sure about, and did not yeild any sort of results, so i dont reccomend using them along side the combo, it will just affect the potential of msm/vitc/trx2.

[ovoxo]

What about rogaine? I guess it's ok to use it along msm

[gutted]

What about rogaine? I guess it's ok to use it along msm

yeah rogaine should be ok.

In fact i would like to know whether this combo can stop the dredded shed that occurs when a person stops rogaine! im pretty confident it can.

[gutted]

Sorry to belabor the point but does your conviction apply as robustly to topical DHT blockers- like Revivogen scalp therapy too

yes, theres a chance that some of the therapy could quite possibly get into the blood stream causing the effects of upregulation, but this is reduced with topicals, so MAY be ok. Either way upregulation will affect the efficacy of this combo.

Blocking dht is really not neccassary here. This combo blocks what dht initiates further along the pathway, hence why there is NO need to block dht.