Hidden Gem -> MSM/Vit C & TRX2 - a fin alternative?

[gutted]

yes even back and sides; I use neutrogena tgel shampoo

had my scalp checked twice for seborrhoeic dermatitis, dermatologist said that my scalp is fine, as for the oiliness you could say that it is oily, with dandruff; also I have oily forehead

what norwood are you and age?

also have you used any androgen inhibitors in the past/or currently using them? within the last 6 months

also have you used niz before?

[ovoxo]

what norwood are you and age?

also have you used any androgen inhibitors in the past/or currently using them? within the last 6 months

also have you used niz before?

I guess you could say norwood 2 but I suspect it's diffuse thinning (my hairline is really bad), I'm 21. Never used fin or any androgen inhibitors, I used Nizoral 2% from March to September (thought it would help with my itching, I didn't do anything at all with the itch, so I dropped it and started using tgel)

[gutted]

I guess you could say norwood 2 but I suspect it's diffuse thinning (my hairline is really bad), I'm 21. Never used fin or any androgen inhibitors, I used Nizoral 2% from March to September (thought it would help with my itching, I didn't do anything at all with the itch, so I dropped it and started using tgel)

ok stay with the msm/vit c combo. niz can aggrevate hairloss in some people, you dropped it now so wait till everything balances out (3 weeks to 3 months). You can stay with the minox since you are already on it, although its not required.

The oilyiness of minox will probably add to the oil effect on the scalp though, so you need to be able to differentiate between normal scalp oil and minox liquid oil.

how long have you been on the combo?

[ovoxo]

this is my seventh week, but I started with 3g msm/1g vit c; and now it's third week 9g msm/4g vit c

[gutted]

this is my seventh week, but I started with 3g msm/1g vit c; and now it's third week 9g msm/4g vit c

ok update in another 4 weeks.

[yeahyeahyeah]

it implies dht/androgens are wreaking havoc on your sebaceous glands <- i find that this is a very reliable indicator that mpb is still working in the background.

the backs and the sides are not as oily as much as the top is in mpb scalps nor do they have as much dandruff as the top. see for yourself.

I find that my scalp gets very oily when I masturbate or have sex.

I wonder if there is a link.

[gutted]

I find that my scalp gets very oily when I masturbate or have sex.

I wonder if there is a link.

there probably is an unproven link but noone, me including, arent going to give up sex for hair! well some of us anyway.

[Kiwi]

Hey Gutted. Do you think I could add this (Cetirizine) to your routine for even better results?

http://www.onlinepharmacy.co.nz/product/1/Zyrtec.html

[Buy The Ticket]

the toco8 is a waste of money and really not required, this also has potentilal to affect androgen imbalance as well as nizoral (keto binds with the Androgen receptor). Although niz 1% may be ok if youve been using that consistently for the passed few months.
The vitamin d3 shouldnt pose any problem.

As for aminexil, im not quite sure on that. If you can afford it and you believe it helps i dont see why this would interact with the combo, although ive noticed my results solely on this combo alone, and anyone wishing to replicate this i adivise this combo only.

You should give it quite some time before you notice anything also i would stop or limit the smoking asap.

OK so I am a month in and have a few observations.

Firstly, I think I have recently gone through a shed (especially frontal hairline, as others in this thread seem to have reported). Remember I have never really used anything in the past for hair loss except vitamins etc, so it can't be attributed to dropping anything.

I put this down to the fact that maybe I was due a shed anyway, but it seemed a bit of a coincidence to be honest....

Also, I got a terrible itch where I lost ground on my hairline.
Maybe my body reacted to the sudden intake of these supplements and needed to adjust, and possibly caused a shed. What do you think of that Gutted? Do you think that could be possible?

Anyway, the good news is that for the last week my itch has pretty much gone. I probably haven't had such a comfortable feeling on my scalp since I can remember. Which is really great.

So maybe this is the start of good things, as you predicted. I can only hope.

[WAG5]

Hi everyone, first post here, registered solely because of this thread. So, I am not certain if I am going bald, but in the past few months have grown increasingly paranoid as it is quite common in my family.

After reading this thread I went out and purchased MSM/Vit C to ease my mind, and have actually noticed a huge increase in shedding since starting. I'm losing like 40 hairs every time I shower, and it's starting to freak me out a little bit. I know it's common for shedding to occur when using propecia and things like that, but does the same apply for this? I had also used Niz 1% two times a few days before dropping that after some things I had read, and trying this.

Anyway, hoping someone can offer some insight cause it's really stressing me out.

[gutted]

OK so I am a month in and have a few observations.

Firstly, I think I have recently gone through a shed (especially frontal hairline, as others in this thread seem to have reported). Remember I have never really used anything in the past for hair loss except vitamins etc, so it can't be attributed to dropping anything.

I put this down to the fact that maybe I was due a shed anyway, but it seemed a bit of a coincidence to be honest....

Also, I got a terrible itch where I lost ground on my hairline.
Maybe my body reacted to the sudden intake of these supplements and needed to adjust, and possibly caused a shed. What do you think of that Gutted? Do you think that could be possible?

Anyway, the good news is that for the last week my itch has pretty much gone. I probably haven't had such a comfortable feeling on my scalp since I can remember. Which is really great.

So maybe this is the start of good things, as you predicted. I can only hope.

well, if those hairs were going to shed, it would have shed anyway regardless of whether you were to take msm or not, msm speeds up the hair cycle, hence it could be possible that you noticed this process occur much faster than usual for all the hairs that were shedding (remember it would have occured anyway) but the good news is it, will return 3 months.

you should try it out for 3/6 months and keep monitoring every month. Eventually you should realise the benefits of reduced shedding (than your current shed levels) by 3/4/6 months.

[gutted]

Hey Gutted. Do you think I could add this (Cetirizine) to your routine for even better results?

http://www.onlinepharmacy.co.nz/product/1/Zyrtec.html

i really dont know, as a hunch i think the regime already addresses pgd2 imbalance through other mechinsms so ceterizine may not be neccasary, but hey you could try it, but remember you need to take for quite some time to notice benefits.

if your happy to take a synthetic drug like that for life then i dont see no probem.

[gutted]

Hi everyone, first post here, registered solely because of this thread. So, I am not certain if I am going bald, but in the past few months have grown increasingly paranoid as it is quite common in my family.

After reading this thread I went out and purchased MSM/Vit C to ease my mind, and have actually noticed a huge increase in shedding since starting. I'm losing like 40 hairs every time I shower, and it's starting to freak me out a little bit. I know it's common for shedding to occur when using propecia and things like that, but does the same apply for this? I had also used Niz 1&#37; two times a few days before dropping that after some things I had read, and trying this.

Anyway, hoping someone can offer some insight cause it's really stressing me out.

short term shedding is not a good indicator that what you are using is causing this. The hairs shed now are the result of what you have been doing/using (if anything) since the last 3 and 6 months.

If you are shedding large amounts than normal, its mpb. - stay on it and update in 3/6 month intervals.

[WAG5]

Thanks, gutted.

Not exactly the news I was hoping for, but oh well. I've only noticed more than usual when I'm showering/styling it, so hopefully that's the pace it stays out until this kicks in. I have been stressed a lot more than normal the last month or so, so I was kind of hoping that was a big part of this, but we will see!

[gutted]

Thanks, gutted.

Not exactly the news I was hoping for, but oh well. I've only noticed more than usual when I'm showering/styling it, so hopefully that's the pace it stays out until this kicks in. I have been stressed a lot more than normal the last month or so, so I was kind of hoping that was a big part of this, but we will see!

things should start to kick in around 3/6 months.

Watch your current/baseline scalp oil levels so that you can compare later down the road.