Hidden Gem -> MSM/Vit C & TRX2 - a fin alternative?

[Cob984]

you guys will lose your mind if you actually try to piece together anything from gutteds first posts to his recent ones,
the amount of revisions and contradictions and his 'explanations' are downright comical

[gutted]

Take it you're defining regrowth as lost hairs coming back here? Seen as the rest of your posts talk about reversal and diffuseness filling back in.


This confuses me though. It's called thinning because hair gets thinner, which it does because it's miniturising. Hair shedding earlier is part of the reason why it does this, yeah, but they do go hand in hand.

Just trying to work out what the realistic best scenario for this is. I don't honestly care about making my hairline any better, it's not brilliant but if it stayed like this I really wouldn't be bothered, don't care about getting my full former density back, if I had enough density to not be able to see through it in normal daylight I'd be over the moon. It got really wavy too easily before anyway (though I sure do miss that now).

sorry i meant "shed". Diffuseness can occur because of sheds or due to MPB (loss). There is no way of knowing why the diffuseness has occured whether its down to mpb or an efflivium of some sort. Most mpb'ers lose hair in a diffuse manner. I wouldnt rely on msm for regrowth, it MAY provide it, but im only confident to say that it can maintain what you currently have.

Yes diffuse thinning is commonly reffered to as hairs being lost in abundance in specific regions where as minuturisation is the decrese in hair diameter over time and yes they can both occur together (go hand in hand) making hair looking much more thinner than if one were to only occur. Chances are most mpb'ers are experiencing both but this can in some cases not be the case.

i would just stick with the msm, evaluate every month to few months.

The intresting thing about this is that, even with dht suppressors such as fin/saw palmetto, in the first few weeks of starting them hair grows faster than it normally would, ive experienced this too! BUT the case with dht suppressors is that the speed of growth drops off after a few weeks further implying dht suppressors only work for a short period of time (eventually becoming sugar pills)...with msm the speed is maintained throughout.

This also sort of gives an indication as to what dht's role in hair is too!

[gutted]

I think msm increased oil production for me, I also have to wash my head everyday and I always have oily forehead

do you take with a lot fluids? water?

also you dont take anything else as medications right?

shampoos?

also are you sure you are taking pure msm? have you noted faster hair growth/nail growth?

thanks

[the_dude78]

Gutted, I've been trying to figure out what exactly it is you get out of all this. I mean, you're not selling anything, you're not advertising specific brands and you don't seem to be trying to get people to join a cult. I just don't get it. Vitamin C and MSM will not halt or regrow any hair if you suffer from MPB, plenty of users on this board have proven that, a friend of mine, who refuses to go on propecia, have tried it for 4 months, and this does not work. It is as simple as that, and yet you continue on your quest.. whatever that is.

I'm guessing it must be the attention you get, some people seek attention in the strangest ways.

[ovoxo]

no I don't use any other medication, even dropped rogaine, as for the shampoo I use neutrogena t gel, MSM - webber naturals optiMSM

faster nail growth, better joints, faster body hair growth


but my scalp is itching, forehead is oily, I have to wash my hair everyday

[gutted]

Gutted, I've been trying to figure out what exactly it is you get out of all this. I mean, you're not selling anything, you're not advertising specific brands and you don't seem to be trying to get people to join a cult. I just don't get it. Vitamin C and MSM will not halt or regrow any hair if you suffer from MPB, plenty of users on this board have proven that, a friend of mine, who refuses to go on propecia, have tried it for 4 months, and this does not work. It is as simple as that, and yet you continue on your quest.. whatever that is.

I'm guessing it must be the attention you get, some people seek attention in the strangest ways.

lool there is no quest here just sharing my experiences, neither am i getting anything out of it. I only came back here to see how people are getting on.

yes well that may be what you believe but i certainly dont!

[gutted]

no I don't use any other medication, even dropped rogaine, as for the shampoo I use neutrogena t gel, MSM - webber naturals optiMSM

faster nail growth, better joints, faster body hair growth


but my scalp is itching, forehead is oily, I have to wash my hair everyday

have you used accutane any time previously?

[ovoxo]

nope

10char

[Space]

nope

10char

Maybe you have some kind of deficiency, itchy and oily scalp could simply be related to bad eating habits.

My advice would be to look over your eating habits and perhaps get on some supplements, like a good multivitamin for example.

[gutted]

nope

10char

did you use any dht suppressors? and give time for those effects to normalise?
also what is your age?

[ovoxo]

I used nizoral, which I stopped 5-6 months ago; I'm 21

[gutted]

I used nizoral, which I stopped 5-6 months ago; I'm 21

ok, im not quite sure then, maybe give it a month more on this and then re-evaluate your situation.

[bigentries]

Totally forgot about this thread and now I see it has reached gargantuan proportions

Any cliffs? something interesting was found?

[bananana]

Almost 4 months for me.

Oil still low, itch still low, nails and skin still far better.
No regrowth so far. No loss so far.

I think I'm going to order that divine hair oil - there is much talk about it on other forums.

If msm can keep what I've got - I'm super satisfied at least until histogen/aderans is available.

I'm also thinking about going to dr. nigam if more people will have good results with him. I believe there is something genuine there.

[Jcm800]

Surely that divine hair oil smells of snake oil?!