Aderans

[Alf]

OK guys,

This is a serious question that I've been asking myself lately so plz share your thoughts:

"Do you think, if we don't hear from Aderans by April 2013 and they decide to do another Phase 2 trial that we could safely say our generation of hairloss sufferers missed out on this cutting edge technology?"

I certainly do think so, especially since I'm not planning on taking fin on a long-term basis (i.e. till 2020)

What are your thoughts?

No phase 3 and I'm not so sure there will be another phase 2.

[Alf]

Alf,

Its one of those gigs they hope could work, but prolly won't....

Praying to santa that you are wrong:P

[Dan26]

Alf,

Its one of those gigs they hope could work, but prolly won't....

Some company will eventually find something, but in the next five-ten years I doubt anything will transpire regarding regrowth of existing follicles.

I have my doubts about Histrogen too, but that's just me, I'm sure others have their fingers crossed.

Transplant, Hair System, or Bust......!

I personally do not even concern myself with any of these companies release dates, because things could always change. I can say though based on my knowledge and the opinions of people I hold in high regard, that if, for example, things like CB (an anti-androgen), Histogen (growth factors), and something to address PDG2 come to market, it SHOULD create regrowth. The science and the safety are the most important things. If you browse forums and see people who are really into fighting hairloss, who go as far to inject growth factors, you know that these things do work, but there long term sustainability is in question.

I feel confident in saying that if you are in the beginning stages of hair loss, you should have some hope. I dream of unlimited donor supply one day, but I have a good feeling I can control my hair loss until then.

[inspects]

If you think of the information given by aderans to the public, I would say that the program has no chace of success.
The reason I believe in aderans is because of the rumours on the internet. One user who I believe is telling the truth who said that he got 5 real hairs(not vellus)(he didn't say the area size, but he had 20 from before and said he had diffuse hair loss so I would guess he thought about cm^2) The results were from phase 1 and only one treatment.
2. are the labs talking about phase 3 and saying on telephone? that the product works(to some degree).

But we will soon find the truth, either they start phase 3 next year or they don't.

Alf,

Its one of those gigs they hope could work, but prolly won't....

Some company will eventually find something, but in the next five-ten years I doubt anything will transpire regarding regrowth of existing follicles.

I have my doubts about Histrogen too, but that's just me, I'm sure others have their fingers crossed.

Transplant, Hair System, or Bust......!

[Alf]

So much for that product....

If you think of the information given by aderans to the public, I would say that the program has no chace of success.
The reason I believe in aderans is because of the rumours on the internet. One user who I believe is telling the truth who said that he got 5 real hairs(not vellus)(he didn't say the area size, but he had 20 from before and said he had diffuse hair loss so I would guess he thought about cm^2) The results were from phase 1 and only one treatment.
2. are the labs talking about phase 3 and saying on telephone? that the product works(to some degree).

But we will soon find the truth, either they start phase 3 next year or they don't.

[inspects]

Joker said earlier that they got 13 or more hairs per cm^2 for halft the participants, and he says his source is the 2010 presebtation.

But there are no picure evidence, at least not regular pictures.

So much for that product....

[Alf]

I'd like to know what they consider "Significant" in their studies...100 follicles, 1000?

Joker said earlier that they got 13 or more hairs per cm^2 for halft the participants, and he says his source is the 2010 presebtation.

But there are no picure evidence, at least not regular pictures.

[inspects]

They claim there was significant hair growth in half of the study participants, not sure that they consider significant.

I'd like to know what they consider "Significant" in their studies...100 follicles, 1000?

[inspects]

OK guys,

This is a serious question that I've been asking myself lately so plz share your thoughts:

"Do you think, if we don't hear from Aderans by April 2013 and they decide to do another Phase 2 trial that we could safely say our generation of hairloss sufferers missed out on this cutting edge technology?"

I certainly do think so, especially since I'm not planning on taking fin on a long-term basis (i.e. till 2020)

What are your thoughts?

Desmond,

I sent Dr W. an email last Friday, asking if he had any idea of a time-frame in mind, but just looking at their website and PR releases I don't see anything happening for at least a couple more years.

[Desmond84]

OK guys,

This is a serious question that I've been asking myself lately so plz share your thoughts:

"Do you think, if we don't hear from Aderans by April 2013 and they decide to do another Phase 2 trial that we could safely say our generation of hairloss sufferers missed out on this cutting edge technology?"

I certainly do think so, especially since I'm not planning on taking fin on a long-term basis (i.e. till 2020)

What are your thoughts?

[Alf]

Websites are a pain in the ass actually.

Don't doubt that, but it should be managable in the timeframe from they know they have the prdocut to it is ready for sale. Phase 3 alone takes a year.

[inspects]

It says on PRNet the costs for their Ji Gami™ family will be similar to transplant costs.

[inspects]

Aderans Research recently completed the first of seven protocols of a hair regeneration Phase 2 clinical study.
More than half of study participants showed significant hair growth one year after the cell product treatment
was administered. Ongoing trial protocols are evaluating additional variants from ARI’s Ji Gami™ family of
follicular cell products.

They claim there was significant hair growth in half of the study participants, not sure that they consider significant.

[hellouser]

Marketing and making websites should be easy to make in time.
The others I'm not sure about.

Websites are a pain in the ass actually, typically it takes 2-3 months to get anything professional done. Unless you hire a freelancer that knows basic PHP and makes a simple static website or a a basic Wordpress site. Web design process is tedious too; initial meetings, wireframe development, then aesthetic design concepts, revisions, photography (unless stock photography is chosen), then finally coding and depending what the site needs will determine how much work and how long it takes to do it, especially if its an e-commerce website, though I don't see much being done on that front, Aderans solution obviously isnt an item that can be purchased.

Anyway, I'm just pointing out that launching a product like this nationally is a herculean task.

[534623]

Okay, now let me speculate a little bit ...

This is a PR article by Aderans, published around 1 year ago:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2011/9/prweb8838237.htm

Snippet:

"We’re getting closer and closer to solving the puzzle of cellular hair regeneration"

What does that mean?
They already solved the puzzle - or couldn't solve the puzzle so far?

Furthermore ...

“These conferences are important for us because they bring together hair restoration surgeons, clinicians and scientific researchers to exchange insights and expand our collective knowledge of the follicular regeneration and restoration processes.”

What does that mean?
Does that mean that about 55 people in a 27,000-square-foot building and after 10 years of hair research still need knowledge from others to solve the puzzle (= still unsolved)?

Ah, I know - it's just a PR article and nobody should read too much into it ...