CB-03-01 - new antiandrogenic

[rdawg]

It's no holy grail, but the results on page 21 don't look that disappointing to me. They continue to start Phase 2 and there's no Go/No-Go decision for CB-03-01 now.

Can you explain what you find dissappointing? Did you expect better results?

Well the results look equivalent to Minoxidil(almost exact actually) which is definitely dissapointing. It has an affect but a very weak one. Although in the drug's defence they are doing a dose ranging study next so a higher dose could prove to be much better.

Really though I dont think anyone expected much from this one, it was seen as a similar product to Finasteride without the sides, which was never going to cause alot of hairgrowth.

SM, Histogen and Replicel were always more interesting as they actually talk about growth, not just maintenence.

[MindfluX]

CB preliminary results are out and they are disappointing.... http://www.cassiopea.com/~/media/Fil...results-v2.pdf

It's no holy grail, but the results on page 21 don't look that disappointing to me. They continue to start Phase 2 and there's no Go/No-Go decision for CB-03-01 now.

Can you explain what you find dissappointing? Did you expect better results?

[Tomtom21]

CB preliminary results are out and they are disappointing.... http://www.cassiopea.com/~/media/Fil...results-v2.pdf

gotta pray samumed has the wonder drug now

[maxout777]

There should just be a stickied thread on RU and CB. How to make it, most reliable place to actually buy it, and so on. Over and over someone else asks the basic questions about them. RU and CB are really the alternative or future treatment if fin fails you or even as another layer of attack. You cant ignore testosterone IMO and even fighting DHT at that level helps make up for the way things like propecia work. They compliment each other.
I know there are threads like this already, but they get buried and get too long.

Completely off topic and sorry to hijack thread, please ignore for everyone else.

Hey burtandernie, just from doing some research by searching on the forum, I found you had a similar experience to me with saw palmetto, do you mind posting on my topic your experience/results? I would pm you but I don't think I can....it would really mean a lot!

[burtandernie]

There should just be a stickied thread on RU and CB. How to make it, most reliable place to actually buy it, and so on. Over and over someone else asks the basic questions about them. RU and CB are really the alternative or future treatment if fin fails you or even as another layer of attack. You cant ignore testosterone IMO and even fighting DHT at that level helps make up for the way things like propecia work. They compliment each other.
I know there are threads like this already, but they get buried and get too long.

[jamesst11]

Is it a bit sad there is an ideal chemical for MPB sitting in a lab somewhere when so many people could use it now. Yet we have to wait half a decade almost to ever get it due to hoops and long drawn out timelines

^THIS!!! We have to take matters into our own hands. If all of us used our connections and resources together, we could get a lab to synthesize a ****tail that would not only kill all androgens in the scalp, but block all AR's... I have no doubt in my mind we could do this. We could also find a way, somehow, someway... to make it affordable. It's time we start making some serious phone calls.

[machi]

Hi guys. We know that Cosmo is studying CB -03-01 5% twice a day, but if you know what Cosmo is considering using it every day or only 3 times a week? I seemed to read Cosmo is using 3 times a week, do you know anything about this?
On the other hand , someone using CB -03-01 can comment on how it goes ?

[burtandernie]

Is it a bit sad there is an ideal chemical for MPB sitting in a lab somewhere when so many people could use it now. Yet we have to wait half a decade almost to ever get it due to hoops and long drawn out timelines

[Trouse5858]

The results of the phase II trials are essentially moot if the drug won't be on the market for another three years though. That's why people go through the trouble and put up the money to experiment. For guys like me who can't take fin because of the sexual sides, three years might as well be ten because I'm losing ground at a rapid pace and it sucks. Honesty the fact that there's nothing that can do roughly the equivalent of fin than doesn't have the single worst side effect there is astounds me. Starting to feel pretty f-n hopeless

[rdawg]

Hi guys. We know that CB -03-01 is very expensive. I would try it but I have no money to pay for it . We know the price of cb- 03-01 of Kane but somebody say it is not really CB (I dont know why). In private forums cb costs $ 150 per gram.
I want to ask a question. Is there any chance we get CB cheaper ? Is there no possibility of negotiating the price with a laboratory for CB cheaper and everyone can try? I think that if the price of CB were cheaper, 50 ñ$ per gram for example, many people would buy it. Has anyone tried to negotiate with some lab?
I'm sure that CB -03-01 works well but only if you use 5% twice daily. So many people could buy cb and try it and laboratories would earn more money because a lot more people would buy it. If buy cb 10 people now, how many people would buy if cb out cheaper ? ¿ Thousands , millions? everyone would benefit .
Any suggestions ? thanks.

Honestly I dont know why you guys are worrying so much about this when the phase II trials will be over soon.

wait until we see the results of those trials(which is using a very expensive high 5% dosage) then you can get the idea of actually buying it if it works.

no use dropping 3000 for a years supply only to find out in a few months that it's no better than Finasteride, we have no idea yet(it could be much better!)

[machi]

Hi guys. We know that CB -03-01 is very expensive. I would try it but I have no money to pay for it . We know the price of cb- 03-01 of Kane but somebody say it is not really CB (I dont know why). In private forums cb costs $ 150 per gram.
I want to ask a question. Is there any chance we get CB cheaper ? Is there no possibility of negotiating the price with a laboratory for CB cheaper and everyone can try? I think that if the price of CB were cheaper, 50 ñ$ per gram for example, many people would buy it. Has anyone tried to negotiate with some lab?
I'm sure that CB -03-01 works well but only if you use 5% twice daily. So many people could buy cb and try it and laboratories would earn more money because a lot more people would buy it. If buy cb 10 people now, how many people would buy if cb out cheaper ? ¿ Thousands , millions? everyone would benefit .
Any suggestions ? thanks.

[hyong]

how many grams of CB do the veteran on these fourm use a month?
4/5 grams? so probably more than $600 a month on cb?

[HairBeWithYou]

email kane at koutingchina its not on the kaneshop, you have to use western union for payment

Many thanks.

[Keki]

guys what happened to the seti trial by users? Now it's been few month, does it work or not?

[iaskdumbquestions]

Is there a reason why CB is so expensive? Is it the chemical composition which is expensive or the demand that is pushing up the prices?