Further Follicept civil conversation

[Helix]

IMHO follicept has acted in very good faith with the exception of the one word "effective" they used on their web page. Could well have been some marketing intern who came up with that.

Well, not really. The language they used was overconfident. The general impression was like they got it all sorted out and trials are just a formality. They should of been more careful not to raise people expectations without solid evidence.

[Arashi]

LMAO. I am the spammer, yet you are the one constantly posting the same negative shit over and over again.

You have at least 2x more follicept posts than I have, all posting the same shit over and over again, so yeah, you ARE the spammer.

[NeedHairASAP]

Yes let's create an even bigger hype for some dubious company with hold claims and unproven products!

You did the same exact thing with pilox... and all of the information you posted about it was ill-informed or outright untruths.

You characterized Yoram as the inventor/owner of the company... this is blatantly NOT TRUE. It's more likely he isn't even a full-time employee, and is just a trichologist hired as a consultant to handle the trichogram analysis during testing.

You also called Pilox "dubious", etc. when vraf posted his honest results (which weren't even remotely impressive). Why would a "Scammer company" be posting pictures with very "vanilla" results... and in an amateur picture-style with toilets in the background? Especially when we've seen how good the Pilox photography is?

The answer: Vraf was a real human. Pilox is not a scam company. And your assumptions (or whatever you want to call them) were WRONG.

Just like you did with pilox, you are calling everyone and anyone "company shills" who are OBVIOUSLY NOT SHILLS... who are just normal people posting on the message board. I don't know if you're joking, or actually think that pilox [or follicept] has some massive illuminati conspiracy to spend multiple years building up a scam so they can make $30k... does that make sense to you?


OKAY, Why am I bringing this up in a non-pilox thread?


Simply to point out that you have just as BAD a track record at spotting scams as you do a GOOD track record. People should realize that you have wrongfully bashed companies before... and they should take everything you post with a grain of salt.

[cuprous]

Jeez louise! The guys are trying it for you, just shut up and watch. There was more positivity in the dermarolling thread.

I agree. There's really NO point in talking about this until there is any kind of development - it works, it fails, Follicept asks us for money, whatever. Until then this is just worthless jostling of opinions. IMHO follicept has acted in very good faith with the exception of the one word "effective" they used on their web page. Could well have been some marketing intern who came up with that.

[serenemoon]

Adults realize time is of the essence. If we took the time to devote this attention to each product that came out, we'd spend our lives on a forum for hair loss. What do you believe the odds are this pans out serenemoon - 1%, 5%, 50%? Are you basing this on anything other than an emotional needing? This is the flavor of the month, the thing to fill that void. What I can't figure out - "follicept" couldn't apply this to their own scalps before mentioning a word of it on a forum? They would have known in a few months if they had something. This appears as a group of individuals reading literature on the problem and guessing a solution after an ah-ha moment. Like every scam prior, something doesn't smell right. The outward appearance changes, but that feeling of things being off remains.

I understand what you are saying since we have seen things come and go, but I joined this forum before Follicept was even active, and I have not jumped on every band wagon. In fact Follicept's potential is what got me to be more active, so flavor of the month stuff does not apply to me. And the history behind is not the way you think. THey had one press release, everyone got excited, BTT started a thread and asked Devon to join. And honestly, do you really think they coming to us later on with results is going to stop people from yelling "SCAM" "HAIR TRANSPLANT!!!" at them? So all the better that this is happening real time before they have a final product I say. That way we get out real time videos, real time pictures and Arashi gets his proof of current forum screen shots in videos (smh.)

[serenemoon]

Ok, so asking people to vote for some company who has no product out, who had no results on humans, who claim 'it's safe, reliable and effective' but 'forget' to state that's only true for *rats*, THAT is 'emotionally mature" ? That's fanboyism to the extreme !

Stop spamming this forum with asking people to vote for anything. Wait till they actually have some results instead.

LMAO. I am the spammer, yet you are the one constantly posting the same negative shit over and over again.

The vote is not for Follicept. It is for what a start up company has accomplished so far, and that includes their PATENTED technology that transmits large molecules through the skin. It is useless talking to you really.

[brocktherock]

Jeez louise! The guys are trying it for you, just shut up and watch. There was more positivity in the dermarolling thread.

[jamesst11]

"Safe, effective, affordable" it says on their website, how is that not a promise exactly ?

It's just marketing man. I wouldn't completely discredit them until they are actually trying to SELL you something.

[noquierosercalvo]

yes, they have already promise us something even if they say they dont.
If not why im so hyped ? and im very cautious with this thing of hair loss and all the fake products for 20 years, but what with all they have said in this forum, their web, " effective " etc... ?
sorry my english.

[Afghanwig]

They never promised anything.

"Safe, effective, affordable" it says on their website, how is that not a promise exactly ?

[jamesst11]

Jesus man, chill. They have been honest so far and not showing fake results. They even said earlier that according to papers, results could come in 12 days and were honest when they did not see results in 12 days. A fake company would have tried the hardest to get some hairs by 12 days just to prove themselves. So kick back, relax and act emotionally mature for your age, dude.

Exactly... it doesn't even matter what results the product yields. They are a hardworking, honest lab that came to us with information. They never promised anything.

[efedrez]

+1, voted for them already

[nameless]

Yes let's create an even bigger hype for some dubious company with hold claims and unproven products!

Arishi has a point. Why promote a product before we have evidence that it grows at least 1 hair in a human being?

[Arashi]

Jesus man, chill. They have been honest so far and not showing fake results. They even said earlier that according to papers, results could come in 12 days and were honest when they did not see results in 12 days. A fake company would have tried the hardest to get some hairs by 12 days just to prove themselves. So kick back, relax and act emotionally mature for your age, dude.

Ok, so asking people to vote for some company who has no product out, who had no results on humans, who claim 'it's safe, reliable and effective' but 'forget' to state that's only true for *rats*, THAT is 'emotionally mature" ? That's fanboyism to the extreme !

Stop spamming this forum with asking people to vote for anything. Wait till they actually have some results instead.

[SOTF]

Adults realize time is of the essence. If we took the time to devote this attention to each product that came out, we'd spend our lives on a forum for hair loss. What do you believe the odds are this pans out serenemoon - 1%, 5%, 50%? Are you basing this on anything other than an emotional needing? This is the flavor of the month, the thing to fill that void. What I can't figure out - "follicept" couldn't apply this to their own scalps before mentioning a word of it on a forum? They would have known in a few months if they had something. This appears as a group of individuals reading literature on the problem and guessing a solution after an ah-ha moment. Like every scam prior, something doesn't smell right. The outward appearance changes, but that feeling of things being off remains.