Bimatoprost finishing up Phase IIb trial!

[unbalding]

What means by "cant expect result for a couple of years" ?

On previous studies they didn't release the results for more than a year after the study was completed. Perhaps having good results this time, if the rumor is true, will make them want to announce the results sooner.

[Hairismylife]

I don't think they did, and after looking at their previous studies it looks like we can't expect results for a couple years. I hope they break from tradition with this one. This stuff is far too expensive to try at higher concentrations without knowing the optimal dosage.

What means by "cant expect result for a couple of years" ?

[unbalding]

That's why I am afraid that they will not show their results. Have they at all said that they will go public with their results?

I don't think they did, and after looking at their previous studies it looks like we can't expect results for a couple years. I hope they break from tradition with this one. This stuff is far too expensive to try at higher concentrations without knowing the optimal dosage.

[Jonathan]

Hypothetically if BIM releases good results this month are we going to have some black-market source to purchase a 5% version of the solution?

That's why I am afraid that they will not show their results. Have they at all said that they will go public with their results?

[charlie76761]

Further thought - % absorption into scalp is known to be low via standard application - you can probably improve a material % through always applying to wet scalp and/ or use of DMI etc

All helps

[charlie76761]

Re Bim 5% - would love to say yes, but highly doubt we'd have a economical source. Kane is around $800+ a gram so for 5g for 100 days at 5% / 50 mg ED, so you're looking at a lot!


We could probably get a fair reduction if we had a 500g / kg group buy but still be miles off RU let along minox (50 bucks for 25g)

Commercial manufacturers will be able to get it down as will be producing for a mass global market however our volume (those on these forums would be a miniscule fraction of that). Over time I think it could fall nicely, but not for a while.

[Jasari]

Hypothetically if BIM releases good results this month are we going to have some black-market source to purchase a 5% version of the solution?

[Illusion]

well yes inevitably if it starts getting mass produced it will get cheaper.

Yeah obv but I was talking about the time span in which this would happen, not so much whether this was going to happen or not. But yeah, let's wait for the results first *fingers crossed*

[rdawg]

About the grey market Bim from Kane... I was wondering, the price of RU also dropped significantly in the last 2-3 years right? Could the same scenario be likely to happen for Bim? As others have said, if Bim proves to be superior to minox I really want to start using it but the price is definitely a problem for me (student life ftw)

well yes inevitably if it starts getting mass produced it will get cheaper.

but this is all pure speculation! I'm anxiously waiting for the results of this trial, good or bad and I really hope they dont take extra months to release them like they did with IIa

[Hairismylife]

I wonder how we would use it in conjunction with Minox... Also, for the first time ever, we might have a hair loss treatment that's not meant for continuous use (for lasting results...). I wonder how that would work.

I dont think its a one-time treatment.

[Gjm127]

I wonder how we would use it in conjunction with Minox... Also, for the first time ever, we might have a hair loss treatment that's not meant for continuous use (for lasting results...). I wonder how that would work.

[joel203]

i wonder if it will be able to regrow temple points ( mine have faded a bit )

[Illusion]

About the grey market Bim from Kane... I was wondering, the price of RU also dropped significantly in the last 2-3 years right? Could the same scenario be likely to happen for Bim? As others have said, if Bim proves to be superior to minox I really want to start using it but the price is definitely a problem for me (student life ftw)

[FearTheLoss]

Well we should know the results within the next 2-3 weeks. I'm very excited but trying to remain cautiously optimistic. If it proves superior to minox, I don't care what it costs I will start using it.

[Gjm127]

This NCBI article indicates that after this lady stopped using bimatoprost, the hair didn't go away. She was using the medication in her eyes as opposed to applying it directly to the areas shown in the photos where hair growth occurred. Quote from article/study:

"Though the patient always had minimal non-vellus hair growth in the same regions, this had increased in number, thickness and length after starting bimatoprost [Figure 1]. The patient's IOPs were maintained at target level. The patient's medical history was unremarkable with no intake of any other drugs. The prostaglandin analogue was stopped and instead dorzolamide and timolol fixed combination was started. When the patient came seven months later, the hair growth did not show significant reduction."

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Of course, since for her it's a side effect... they make it look bad by saying it's an adverse event that became permanent with time, I'm not surprised.