Bimatoprost finishing up Phase IIb trial!

[Kudu]

There's essentially no possibility of us buying this stuff on the grey market or whatever.

the 0.03% solution is enough to get very minor results in some people, but the hair solution will likely be a minimum of 1%-5% which would cost like 1000 a month to do through the grey market , which is a ridiculous amount for anyone(that's more than an average HT in one year)

Someone needs to figure out a way to find an affordable supplier. Why is this so expensive to make? If this didn't cost so much imagine how many people would use this. Is there anyone who knows how to find an affordable supplier for Bim? There has to be a way, if not, then this thread is basically useless because this still isn't coming out for at least a couple of years.

[burtandernie]

So this stuff assuming it works well and comes out is going to be very expensive? Well the tons of guys that always said they would pay any amount for a cure will finally get to put up or shut up although its not an actual cure I guess.

[rdawg]

In response to some of the earlier comments about whether they will proceed with the bim stage 3. If they product works as well as Joe and Spencer have heard it does than they will proceed forward. They knew Bimatoprost was available to the public before they started the trail yet still proceeded. Case in point, people will are far more likely to buy a mixed, tested and marketed product and Allergan and Actavis know this. In response to comments about Spencer hyping things, the way he did for this trial being a common occurrence, or insinuating that Spencer is not careful with his words, is complete BS. Spencer, as far as I can tell, speaks in very measured words and often tempers expectations.

There's essentially no possibility of us buying this stuff on the grey market or whatever.

the 0.03% solution is enough to get very minor results in some people, but the hair solution will likely be a minimum of 1%-5% which would cost like 1000 a month to do through the grey market , which is a ridiculous amount for anyone(that's more than an average HT in one year)

[Gremlin142]

If it works they will sell it

In response to some of the earlier comments about whether they will proceed with the bim stage 3. If they product works as well as Joe and Spencer have heard it does than they will proceed forward. They knew Bimatoprost was available to the public before they started the trail yet still proceeded. Case in point, people will are far more likely to buy a mixed, tested and marketed product and Allergan and Actavis know this. In response to comments about Spencer hyping things, the way he did for this trial being a common occurrence, or insinuating that Spencer is not careful with his words, is complete BS. Spencer, as far as I can tell, speaks in very measured words and often tempers expectations.

[hellouser]

Stop your whining and wait for the results

The whining is warranted.

Hey I got an idea! Let's do some more research on growing hair on mice!

[It's2014ComeOnAlready]

very upsetting. this forum for 10 years, and nothing the public can use will be available.

Stop your whining and wait for the results

[hellouser]

January is almost over and we've yet to hear about BIM's promised results.... w000hooo

[kobefan234]

very upsetting. this forum for 10 years, and nothing the public can use will be available.

[FearTheLoss]

I wonder how many threads in the cutting edge forum would be left if you went through and removed all the nonsense, stuff that turned out to not really work, and theory crafting threads. Probably a bunch of threads on propecia or minox left? There really isnt much to talk about in terms of concrete results on anything in the last years. Hopefully this or CB in a few years finally changes that and shows some actual physical results on humans.

I've seen some good results with PRP, although it's not very consistent (yet) and RU obviously and some CB. I think Histogen showed great results, and we have anecdotal evidence on both bim and pilofocus. People just talk about the dumb stuff.

[burtandernie]

I wonder how many threads in the cutting edge forum would be left if you went through and removed all the nonsense, stuff that turned out to not really work, and theory crafting threads. Probably a bunch of threads on propecia or minox left? There really isnt much to talk about in terms of concrete results on anything in the last years. Hopefully this or CB in a few years finally changes that and shows some actual physical results on humans.

[beetee]

I wouldn't count on results being out anytime soon. These things usually are not posted right away. Would be cool if someone had some inside information. I wonder where Spencer heard about the trials. His shows are never informative in any way about anything significant. How many times can you talk about propecia and hair transplants and how shitty it is to go bald. Dumb.

This is true. When Allergan first thought they would get positive results with Bimatoprost for hair they planned on releasing the results at a to-be-determined medical conference, which would have been months after completing the trial. For all I know they may release the results tomorrow, but I wouldn't count on it.

Also true, Spencer has often hyped things up (Follica) and stated that something was X amount of months/years off, but those time periods came and went with nothing. Meanwhile some of the usual suspects get their hopes (and their defenses) way up. That doesn't seem like a positive result to me.

[Hairismylife]

We know the right vehicle?

[Jasari]

Re Bim 5% - would love to say yes, but highly doubt we'd have a economical source. Kane is around $800+ a gram so for 5g for 100 days at 5% / 50 mg ED, so you're looking at a lot!


We could probably get a fair reduction if we had a 500g / kg group buy but still be miles off RU let along minox (50 bucks for 25g)

Commercial manufacturers will be able to get it down as will be producing for a mass global market however our volume (those on these forums would be a miniscule fraction of that). Over time I think it could fall nicely, but not for a while.

Yeah it's very expensive. If the results were good I'd probably be able to swing enough for 100 days worth of a 2% solution but 5% at that price is just impractical.

[sdsurfin]

I wouldn't count on results being out anytime soon. These things usually are not posted right away. Would be cool if someone had some inside information. I wonder where Spencer heard about the trials. His shows are never informative in any way about anything significant. How many times can you talk about propecia and hair transplants and how shitty it is to go bald. Dumb.

[Hairismylife]

On previous studies they didn't release the results for more than a year after the study was completed. Perhaps having good results this time, if the rumor is true, will make them want to announce the results sooner.

I am afraid black market will discourage them to commercialize the product unless they patent Bim. I will try Bim no matter what result they get but i need a price down.