Bimatoprost finishing up Phase IIb trial!

[sascha]

Where are joe and spencer taking about this?

http://www.thebaldtruth.com/hair-loss/hair-loss-in-the-media-at-least-theyre-covering-it-right/

[FearTheLoss]

Where are joe and spencer taking about this?

[sascha]

Kobren never made any predictions, it was Joe from SI and while he’s a lovable character on the show, he doesn’t know anything more than any of us, just what he reads on these forums. He has no inside information.

No he didnīt make any predictions. He did not denie what Joe said. Hey guys I do not care, think what you want. I am only into Replicel-news. But when I read crap like beetees and sdsurfins comments I have to say something and make clear that other people see things different and I am one of them.

[sascha]

But why do you think Spencer and Joe know more than CEO of Allergan?

Because Joe is totally obsessed maybe? Not only looking into news and interviews, but also looking at stocks...

[PayDay]

Kobren never made any predictions, it was Joe from SI and while he’s a lovable character on the show, he doesn’t know anything more than any of us, just what he reads on these forums. He has no inside information.

[rambo007]

my friends, I could give a shit about what you think. Perfect NW1.5 here, with a full head of hair. Just saying what Kobren and Joe said, nothing more nothing less. If you want to laugh at me, you have to laugh at them

But why do you think Spencer and Joe know more than CEO of Allergan?

[sascha]

my friends, I could give a shit about what you think. Perfect NW1.5 here, with a full head of hair. Just saying what Kobren and Joe said, nothing more nothing less. If you want to laugh at me, you have to laugh at them

[RGPHILPA]

Okay beta-baldie. You can say what you have to say. I stick to my opinion and we are cool. I actually believe what more informed people put out in public and boy we will see and I will be the first one to let you know. peace

You have to laugh at naivete like this. If you think they're going to recruit candidates, set up and execute the trial, analyze the data, get approval and release a commercialized product in less than a year, you're sorely mistaken. Not happening, even if the end point was 6 months; which it's not.

[sdsurfin]

Okay beta-baldie. You can say what you have to say. I stick to my opinion and we are cool. I actually believe what more informed people put out in public and boy we will see and I will be the first one to let you know. peace

you just stated that the next trial would last 6-12 months. you do realize 12 months with change puts you at 2016, and nothing gets released the second a phase three is over. No one knows shit except that trials and approvals always take a pretty standard minimum of time. Phase three is never the end, and you'll only see a phase three if this drug is really great, which by the looks of it could go either way. So take your condescending bullshit and go get a brain instead of hair.

[sascha]

There's no way this gets released in 2015. They have to analyze the phaseII results, organize a phase 3 (usually takes a year or so), then do a phase 3 (another year) and then jump through all the hoops to get it to market (another year). So you're looking at 3 years more MINIMUM, if no delays or complications happen. And that's IF it actually works well enough. Wouldn't get too excited for anything to come out before 2018 or so, but the fact that there are a few good things in the works is encouraging.

Okay beta-baldie. You can say what you have to say. I stick to my opinion and we are cool. I actually believe what more informed people put out in public and boy we will see and I will be the first one to let you know. peace

[sdsurfin]

6 years for phase 3? hahahhaha genius at work. phase 3 lasts for 6 - 12 months.
Spencer Kobren said it himself. It is likely that we will see the release of BIM in 2015.

There's no way this gets released in 2015. They have to analyze the phaseII results, organize a phase 3 (usually takes a year or so), then do a phase 3 (another year) and then jump through all the hoops to get it to market (another year). So you're looking at 3 years more MINIMUM, if no delays or complications happen. And that's IF it actually works well enough. Wouldn't get too excited for anything to come out before 2018 or so, but the fact that there are a few good things in the works is encouraging.

[sascha]

Not sure where you guys are going with this. They will go into Phase III next or end the trials depending on the results.

there wont be another Phase IIb, they used this trial to see how a higher dosage would do, They dont need to do another trial again!

Phase III takes one year, not 6, just has a much higher amount of trialists(300-400 vs. 50-80 in phase IIb)

But it has to be monetarily worth it, not just an equivalent to minoxidil, i think the company wants to see significant/noticable improvement over minoxidil.

There is NO fixed amont of month such trial has to last by the way, it was mentioned and confirmed on The Bald Truth: 6 to 12 months for this trial.

[rdawg]

Not sure where you guys are going with this. They will go into Phase III next or end the trials depending on the results.

there wont be another Phase IIb, they used this trial to see how a higher dosage would do, They dont need to do another trial again!

Phase III takes one year, not 6, just has a much higher amount of trialists(300-400 vs. 50-80 in phase IIb)

But it has to be monetarily worth it, not just an equivalent to minoxidil, i think the company wants to see significant/noticable improvement over minoxidil.

[Artista]

interesting

[Parsia]

Shut up.

Guys , Please don't forget we are here to HELP each other ! This is the aim that we spend our time here on forum than going outside and sit in the bar ! So what is really point of insulting to each other? Lets respect to each other even our opinion and our understanding of the product is not the SAME ! I follow up this forum everyday and I see there are some insulting instead of sharing opinion ! this forum and this website is for fighting to hairloss and not fighting together ! Lets be respectful to each other !