Final Days: Chinese Scientists Have Solved the DP Culturing Problem! (2014)
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And it's also random posters on internet message boards who are badmouthing Dr. Nigam.
When are you Nigam-haters going to email the 2014 hair loss congress to badmouth Nigam? They'll get a big kick out of you random posters at hair websites badmouthing one of their speakers. And please mention that Nigam has had some poor hair transplant results. I'm sure that they will be surprised to learn that there is a hair transplant doctor out there who has not had 100% success rate.Comment
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Also keep in mind that Dr. Nigam's experiment has been accepted by a major mainstream scientific hair research group - the 2014 hair loss congress. Whether you like it or not he's part of that scientific group now. You could perhaps prevent that if you could get him banned from the 2014 hair loss congress (like a few posters have talked about) but I don't think you can get it done. I think that the hair loss congress respects Nigam more than it respects a bunch of hair website jabbers.
The hair congress respects Nigam only so long as his membership dues are paid and he's paid for his place at the conference. His presence there is no indication of the validity of his "research" and is certainly not an endorsement.
Plus, we may be putting the cart before the horse. Nigam may not even show up for it. This all could be for show. Sort of like the photo bombs he had with Gerd and company.Comment
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Arishi, I'm not being sarcastic or trying to give you a hard time but there are some issues I would like to discuss with you.
1. Why don't you email the 2014 Hair Congress since you think it should be done?
2. Do you really think that Dr. Nigam is the only big name hair doctor who has some cases of poor results?
3. Do you realize that all, 100%, of hair doctors have some cases of poor results?
4. Do you think that Dr. Nigam is the only big name hair doc who has exaggerated his success and capabilities?
5. Do you realize that all, 100%, of big name hair doctors have exaggerated their success and capabilities?
6. If you accept that all, 100%, of big name hair doctors had had cases of poor results and done some exaggerating about their success and capabilities do you realize that the 2014 Hair Congress realizes this too? And if they do understand this too then doesn't that mean that they're smart enough to realize that any negative shyte you tell them about Dr. Nigam could also be said about virtually all of the other doctors at their symposium to some degree? And if they realize this do you really think that they will pay any attention to your negative email?
7. What do you think of my point that when Dr. Nigam lacked sufficient information to cure hair loss that put him under pressure to embellish and do questionable things but if he actually really had sufficient information to cure hair loss then he might not need to embellish and do questionable things? Do you think I have a good point here?
8. In other words, is a man more likely to play games if he does not have the real-deal cure than if he actually really has the real-deal cure?
9. My point is doesn't it seem like the man who will play games is the man who does not really have the solution that people want?
10. And by the same token doesn't it seem like once that man (who doesn't have the true solution that people want) actually gets that true solution that people want then maybe he might stop the game-playing because once he has the true solution he no longer needs to play games? Does this seem logical or not?
11. Let's put it like this: Is any human being more likely to do something wrong if he has to than if he doesn't have to?
12. If you agree that a man is less likely to do something wrong if he doesn't have to then doesn't that mean that Nigam might follow the appropriate script if information were to surface that would permit him to offer a true cure?
13. I believe that as it stands right now if info that could cure hair loss were to surface we would have 2 options:
a) talk to Nigam and get him straight so that he can deliver that cure quickly.
b) accept that we will have to wait 6 - 8 years to get the treatment from the mainstream market.
Do you see any other options available to us at the present time? I don't.
14. I agree that other options might open up to us later but right now these 2 options I have listed are the only 2 options I see. If you see any other options right now what are those other options?
15. If you don't see other options open to us right now but do think that other options could open up to us later, what would those options be?Comment
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So with this discovery is it safe to say that we will be able to have unlimited donor basically for a hair transplant? Is there anything we can do to help get this approved faster such as getting this info to the media so more researchers are aware the last piece to the puzzle has been discovered?Comment
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Yeah, not quite. He's submitted an abstract for a poster presentation. As someone who has done this numerous times, for many different conferences, i can tell you first hand that there is practically no vetting of the material presented other than to check that the subject matter is appropriate for the venue. And even with that they are very lenient. Basically anyone could submit an abstract and they'll accept it.
The hair congress respects Nigam only so long as his membership dues are paid and he's paid for his place at the conference. His presence there is no indication of the validity of his "research" and is certainly not an endorsement.
Plus, we may be putting the cart before the horse. Nigam may not even show up for it. This all could be for show. Sort of like the photo bombs he had with Gerd and company.
Alchemist, firstly, they rejected other applicants. Secondly, some of the applicants that they rejected also paid their membership dues but paying their membership dues did not get them the right to present anything. Thirdly, all of the other scientists who will be presenting information also paid for their memberships so maybe you should disregard Jahoda and the rest who will also be there. Lastly, the Hair Congress Society had to conclude that Nigam's information was worth being shared or else they would have rejected it like they did to other dues-paying applicants.
Also, if new information surfaces at this Hair Congress that would be sufficient to cure hair loss via cell therapy what should we do? There are only 2 choices right now:
1. Work with Nigam and get him to follow the script
2. Wait 6 - 8 years and get the treatment from mainstream market.
Which of these 2 choices are you recommending in the event that info surfaces that would enable us to get our hair back via cell therapy? Are you advocating that we wait the 6 - 8 years?Comment
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Anyway, you get the point. If you have a brain unlike ahem, jarjarbinx. Imagine that the man who might cure us is posting these sort of pictures.Comment
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Great! So you've made the point that when he couldn't cure hair loss because he lacked the information how to cure it he got poor results. OK, I'll buy that, but what if he were to suddenly get the information how to cure hair loss? If that were to happen then your dimwitted point is irrelevant because then that's a different situation, as I've said the past 4 or 5 posts. Why that point is not sinking into your head is beyond me.
And by the way since you aren't willing to consider trying to get Nigam to use new info and do the job right does that mean that your recommendation is to wait 6 - 8 years for the treatment to reach the main markets?
I ask the above question because presently there are only 2 choices:
1. Try to work with Nigam.
2. Wait 6 - 8 years.
Clearly you have selected wait 6 - 8 years.Comment
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Pfff JarJarbinx you still don't get it eh. Nigam lied and cheated. He not only sold therapies that he know didnt work, he put the lives of his patients in great danger, by injecting uncentrifuged animal serum, as per accounts of an UK patient, Tom and Boldy. This is not a doctor 'who just had some bad cases'. This is a doctor who had NO succesful cases AT ALL. Yet he told everyone he had that, he told he could transform NW7 patients into NW2's and whatsmore. He sold people lies. How you still can have even the tiniest bit of respect respect for such a ruthless scam artist, is beyond me.
I'm not going to have this discussion again with you. You can read all there's to say here: http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=14690 and that's that.Comment
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Pfff JarJarbinx you still don't get it eh. Nigam lied and cheated. He not only sold therapies that he know didnt work, he put the lives of his patients in great danger, by injecting uncentrifuged animal serum, as per accounts of an UK patient, Tom and Boldy. This is not a doctor 'who just had some bad cases'. This is a doctor who had NO succesful cases AT ALL. Yet he told everyone he had that, he told he could transform NW7 patients into NW2's and whatsmore. He sold people lies. How you still can have even the tiniest bit of respect respect for such a ruthless scam artist, is beyond me.
I'm not going to have this discussion again with you. You can read all there's to say here: http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=14690 and that's that.
* As far as Nigam lying and cheating goes, you could put every hair transplant doctors name in the world on a wall and throw a dart at that wall and hit the name of a hair transplant doctor who has embellished, exaggerated, even lied. They're all doing it. That means it's industry standard and if one doctor doesn't do it then he will lose financially.
* If I were to reject ALL of the hair doctors who have exaggerated, lied, or embellished, then that would leave no doctors for me to go to about my hair loss once a cure does become available.
* You have not answered my questions.
* If we out-and-out reject the idea of going to Nigam if and when information surfaces that could truly cure hair loss if the doctor followed the script, then what is the alternative that you would have for us?
* You call Nigam scammy but what about you? Not only have you lied when you said that Nigam has had zero successful cases, but you are also intentionally withholding the fact that if we out-and-out reject the idea of working with Nigam if new info comes out that really could work if we could get Nigam to follow the script then what you are telling us is that as things stand right now your recommendation is to accept that we should wait 6 - 8 years for the treatment to reach the mainstream markets? Why don't you just come out and say it?
* At least I have the guts to lay the truth out there. I know I'm going to get bashed for even suggesting that Nigam is one of the alternatives we should consider if cellular breakthrough info surfaces, but I still say it. I say it, I get bashed, I deal with it.
* Why don't you just come out and say that as things stand right now it is your recommendation that we all wait 6 - 8 years for treatment even if breakthrough cellular information that would cure hair loss is released soon?Comment
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As of last month, officially Nigam was wanted by the Mumbai Police:
Meanwhile, H R Parmale, senior police inspector at Versova police station, confirmed that Dr Nigam is wanted and that they are on the lookout for him.
This is the first known and documented case of a hair transplant doctor hiding in order to escape arrest:
“When I informed the police that Dr Nigam could be found at his clinic and should be arrested, the investigating officer said that his team was searching for him but that he was untraceable,” added Dr Shere.
The accusation though says that the police tried actually to shield him instead of arresting him. Go figure.Comment
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We don't talk about eventual failures. This can happen to anyone. We talk about a fraud.
As of last month, officially Nigam was wanted by the Mumbai Police:
Meanwhile, H R Parmale, senior police inspector at Versova police station, confirmed that Dr Nigam is wanted and that they are on the lookout for him.
This is the first known and documented case of a hair transplant doctor hiding in order to escape arrest:
“When I informed the police that Dr Nigam could be found at his clinic and should be arrested, the investigating officer said that his team was searching for him but that he was untraceable,” added Dr Shere.
The accusation though says that the police tried actually to shield him instead of arresting him. Go figure.
And hiding in his office. Whoda thunk to check his office of all places?
Lots of hair transplant doctors have been taken to court. Some have won. Charges mean nothing; it's convictions that matter. Dr. Hitzig got hauled into court and he won:
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