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  • nameless
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 965

    Originally posted by clarence
    Poor tonypizza... underestimating the power of "if", when he refuses to submit himself to Dr. Nigam's experiments... among a wealth of other "unapproved treatments". I doubt nobody is going to get a free pass, unless there are many women in jarjarland who find mental illness appealing.
    At least I have a mental capacity. You have none.

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    • nameless
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 965

      Originally posted by clarence
      On the other hand, maybe it's just that his brain cells are severely minituarized. So there will be plenty of options for him in the competition of women, when Dr. Nigam is finally able to photoshop hair on his head.
      If a breakthrough is announced and Nigam starts using it then I will wait to see if he has success and if he does I'll be flying to get the treatment unless other options become available. You can stay bald and marry your hand.

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      • nameless
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 965

        If a cell-based breakthrough is announced soon what are our options to get the treatment? The way I see it there are two options:

        1. Wait 6 - 8 years for the treatment to come to main markets.

        2. Press Nigam to incorporate the new information, get him to test the new treatment, and if he proves he can follow the script then we could get treatment from him within a year or so.

        If anybody else can think of any other options I would like to see those other options. If all posters do is attack and insult I'll report the attack/insult posts to the moderator(s) and ignore them because if all a poster does is attack/insult that means it's obvious he doesn't have another option so his post is in effect an endorsement of option #1 - waiting 6 - 8 years for it to get to main markets.

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        • Thinning@30
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 316

          No one should believe a word Nigam says after everything that has happened. He was caught posting fake pics and offered us a ridiculous explanation. Forum members traveled to India for procedures with him and have nothing to show for it but a messed up donor region and a much lighter pocketbook. He injected people with animal serum!!! And let's not even get into all that shadiness involving the weight loss business and the rival HT doctor. If the Indian police are having trouble finding Nigam at least now they know where he'll be in April.

          I'm shocked that Nigam is speaking at the conference. I can only imagine that they didn't do much vetting of speakers. Sadly, scientific fraud is all too common, and sometimes even the most respectable scientists have trouble recognizing it. Just look at what happened with the Japanese scientist who published an amazing breakthrough involving stem cells and then retracted it. She even got published in the journal Nature.

          It is too bad the conference is being held in Korea. It would be great if Tom or one of Nigam's other "patients" could attend and present themselves as a case study! I would love to see that guy exposed for what he is.

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          • nameless
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 965

            To everyone reading this post consider that at least I have the guts to put forth my thoughts. My thoughts are that if a breakthrough is announced then we will have 2 basic options:

            1. Wait 6 - 8 years for it to hit the regular market.

            2. Press Nigam to incorporate the breakthrough information into his cell-based protocols and get him to do some open testing to see if he can follow the script. If he can do things correctly then we could get early treatment from him.

            I know when I post these above 2 options I'm going to get bashed, but at least I say what I think. I put the only true present options
            on the table for everyone to consider. but my critics are weak because they criticize but they do not offer any 3rd option. All they do is
            attack. They attack the possibility of a "Nigam" option. So clearly they reject the Nigam possibility. That only leaves the option of waiting
            6 - 8 years. It's obvious that their plan is for all of us to wait 6 - 8 years but they don't have the guts to come out and say that because
            they know that other posters will be negative about that plan of theirs. At least I have the guts to come out and say what our options will be
            (if a breakthrough is announced) and ask people for any other potential options. My critics have no guts. Like I said they know that by
            rejecting the Nigam possibility they're saying that we should all just wait 6 - 8 years because that's the only other option, but they don't
            have the guts to come out and say it.

            I'll ask again, if a cell breakthrough is announced soon does anyone see any options other than the 2 options I've listed? I'm open to suggestions but it looks to me like the 2 options I've listed are the only realistic options we have.

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            • hellouser
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 4419

              Originally posted by Thinning@30
              It is too bad the conference is being held in Korea. It would be great if Tom or one of Nigam's other "patients" could attend and present themselves as a case study! I would love to see that guy exposed for what he is.
              Email the congress with photographic evidence and all the bullshit Nigam has posted on the forums. They need to ban that piece of shit from the congress.

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              • nameless
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 965

                Originally posted by Thinning@30
                No one should believe a word Nigam says after everything that has happened. He was caught posting fake pics and offered us a ridiculous explanation. Forum members traveled to India for procedures with him and have nothing to show for it but a messed up donor region and a much lighter pocketbook. He injected people with animal serum!!! And let's not even get into all that shadiness involving the weight loss business and the rival HT doctor. If the Indian police are having trouble finding Nigam at least now they know where he'll be in April.

                I'm shocked that Nigam is speaking at the conference. I can only imagine that they didn't do much vetting of speakers. Sadly, scientific fraud is all too common, and sometimes even the most respectable scientists have trouble recognizing it. Just look at what happened with the Japanese scientist who published an amazing breakthrough involving stem cells and then retracted it. She even got published in the journal Nature.

                It is too bad the conference is being held in Korea. It would be great if Tom or one of Nigam's other "patients" could attend and present themselves as a case study! I would love to see that guy exposed for what he is.

                All doctor's have bad outcomes. All of them. I had a hair transplant by a world-renowned highly regarded hair transplant specialist and I did get some cobblestoning. And while Nigam has some bad outcomes he also has some good outcomes. And the world-renowned hair transplant doc I went to also only puts his best results in the news as far as I can tell. They're all embellishing and trying to make themselves look like they always get great results, but it's bs. So maybe we should reject all hair doctors and just stay bald.

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                • SOTF
                  Member
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 54

                  Originally posted by nameless
                  So then you will run the risk of staying bald up to 10 years longer than you have to. That's fine with me because then you'll be a "bye" in the competition for women. If I get my hair back and you don't have yours then you will be a "free pass" when it comes to competing for women.
                  Just what the hell are you rambling on about? Judging by this one post alone, with or without hair, you aren't going to be at the top of the pecking order for women. Take a hint, see all the bald men with beautiful women? What do they have that you don't: confidence and power. This is ultimately what women seek. If the strands of dead fiber on your scalp give you ultimate confidence, superb. Otherwise grab a grip.

                  If Nigam offers "this" procedure "10 years" before anyone else, I will absolutely NOT go to him. Want to know why? BECAUSE IT WON'T BE LEGITIMATE so your point is null and void!

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                  • nameless
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 965

                    Originally posted by hellouser
                    Email the congress with photographic evidence and all the bullshit Nigam has posted on the forums. They need to ban that piece of shit from the congress.

                    Go ahead and email the congress. And if they don't ban him then what?

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                    • HairBane
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 300

                      Originally posted by Thinning@30
                      No one should believe a word Nigam says after everything that has happened. He was caught posting fake pics and offered us a ridiculous explanation. Forum members traveled to India for procedures with him and have nothing to show for it but a messed up donor region and a much lighter pocketbook. He injected people with animal serum!!! And let's not even get into all that shadiness involving the weight loss business and the rival HT doctor. If the Indian police are having trouble finding Nigam at least now they know where he'll be in April.

                      I'm shocked that Nigam is speaking at the conference. I can only imagine that they didn't do much vetting of speakers. Sadly, scientific fraud is all too common, and sometimes even the most respectable scientists have trouble recognizing it. Just look at what happened with the Japanese scientist who published an amazing breakthrough involving stem cells and then retracted it. She even got published in the journal Nature.

                      It is too bad the conference is being held in Korea. It would be great if Tom or one of Nigam's other "patients" could attend and present themselves as a case study! I would love to see that guy exposed for what he is.
                      If it's all bullshit he won't last long. Science is very competitive, if you present nonsense and claim to have cured baldness to a bunch of industry professionals, you can guarantee that if there are holes in the theory, they'll find them and rip him apart. Hopefully this will bring about a conclusion to the whole saga.

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                      • tonypizza
                        Member
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 47

                        Originally posted by nameless
                        So then you will run the risk of staying bald up to 10 years longer than you have to. That's fine with me because then you'll be a "bye" in the competition for women. If I get my hair back and you don't have yours then you will be a "free pass" when it comes to competing for women.
                        This Nigam guy is taking cues from random posters on an internet message board for his "experiments"

                        There are thousands of world-class Indian doctors in this world, why do I need this quack treating me.

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                        • nameless
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 965

                          Originally posted by tonypizza
                          This Nigam guy is taking cues from random posters on an internet message board for his "experiments"

                          There are thousands of world-class Indian doctors in this world, why do I need this quack treating me.

                          Have you found another Indian doctor who will do cell therapy hair loss treatments )based on the information being put out by the top hair loss researchers in the world) right now? If you are aware of world-class Indian doctors who are agreeable to trying these cells treatments (if a breakthrough is publicized soon) then I think we should talk to those world-class doctors, but I'm not aware of any other doctors who would try it except Dr. Nigam.

                          And keep in mind that Dr. Nigam has been working with cell experiments, but other Indian doctors may have to start from scratch.

                          Also keep in mind that Dr. Nigam's experiment has been accepted by a major mainstream scientific hair research group - the 2014 hair loss congress. Whether you like it or not he's part of that scientific group now. You could perhaps prevent that if you could get him banned from the 2014 hair loss congress (like a few posters have talked about) but I don't think you can get it done. I think that the hair loss congress respects Nigam more than it respects a bunch of hair website jabbers.

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                          • nameless
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 965

                            Originally posted by tonypizza
                            This Nigam guy is taking cues from random posters on an internet message board for his "experiments"

                            There are thousands of world-class Indian doctors in this world, why do I need this quack treating me.

                            And it's also random posters on internet message boards who are badmouthing Dr. Nigam.

                            When are you Nigam-haters going to email the 2014 hair loss congress to badmouth Nigam? They'll get a big kick out of you random posters at hair websites badmouthing one of their speakers. And please mention that Nigam has had some poor hair transplant results. I'm sure that they will be surprised to learn that there is a hair transplant doctor out there who has not had 100% success rate.

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                            • gladiator
                              Junior Member
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 17

                              Originally posted by nameless
                              Hellouser, if we try to get a western doctor to open a clinic in India that means we have to accomplish 2 things:

                              1. Convince a western doctor to relocate to India.

                              2. Get him to start treatments early.


                              Obviously if we get an Indian doctor to do treatments early then we only have to accomplish one of those things. It's simply easier if we try to get an Indian doctor to do treatments early.
                              Better idea ,
                              Dallas Buyers Club
                              Hair regrowth + no AIDS
                              2 for 1

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                              • nameless
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 965

                                Originally posted by gladiator
                                Better idea ,
                                Dallas Buyers Club
                                Hair regrowth + no AIDS
                                2 for 1


                                Dallas Buyer's club is not doing hair cell treatments.

                                bzzzt! Next!

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