Final Days: Chinese Scientists Have Solved the DP Culturing Problem! (2014)

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  • nameless
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 965

    Originally posted by hellouser
    +3
    I myself don't really care if we stop talking about Nigam or not. I've made my points and I'm done talking about this issue until we get more information anyway.

    But that having been said, I do think that if (and I admit that it's a big if) we get news soon out of the 2014 hair congress of a breakthrough that could potentially cure hair loss then we are going to be faced with a dilemma. We are going to have limited options when it comes to the issue of timing. We are either going to have to wait 6 + years or we are going to have to get a doctor to start the breakthrough treatment sooner. I pledge that I am willing to help in any way that I can to make it available to us sooner. It doesn't have to be a way that I think of - it can be a way that anybody thinks of. I will put time, energy, and money into a plan if someone comes up with a viable possible plan. If breakthrough info is disclosed then we will have to either think of a plan to get the treatment early or else we will have to accept being bald 6 years + even after the breakthrough news is released. Argh!!

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    • ChemicalBrother
      Member
      • Jan 2014
      • 36

      So , in trying to get this thing back on topic.
      How is it that the chinese say they have "solved" the missing link while these guys in an article, published 13th March 2014 here http://www.upenn.edu/pennnews/curren...inst-hair-loss say this : "Now that researchers have discovered a way to create epithelial stem cells, they must figure out how to maintain and multiply human dermal papillae cells, a finding that has so far evaded them. He says the ultimate goal is to be able to make a hair follicle in a lab.... will take us another 10 years ..."

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      • BoSox
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 697

        Originally posted by ChemicalBrother
        So , in trying to get this thing back on topic.
        How is it that the chinese say they have "solved" the missing link while these guys in an article, published 13th March 2014 here http://www.upenn.edu/pennnews/curren...inst-hair-loss say this : "Now that researchers have discovered a way to create epithelial stem cells, they must figure out how to maintain and multiply human dermal papillae cells, a finding that has so far evaded them. He says the ultimate goal is to be able to make a hair follicle in a lab.... will take us another 10 years ..."
        Thanks for putting us back on topic, this is very interesting too.. Anybody have thoughts on this?

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        • hellouser
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 4419

          Originally posted by ChemicalBrother
          So , in trying to get this thing back on topic.
          How is it that the chinese say they have "solved" the missing link while these guys in an article, published 13th March 2014 here http://www.upenn.edu/pennnews/curren...inst-hair-loss say this : "Now that researchers have discovered a way to create epithelial stem cells, they must figure out how to maintain and multiply human dermal papillae cells, a finding that has so far evaded them. He says the ultimate goal is to be able to make a hair follicle in a lab.... will take us another 10 years ..."
          I seriously want to hurt someone when I read this kind of bullsh*t. Why TEN years? What's the effing hold up? Did they really crack the final piece of the puzzle, call it a day and say 'we'll come back in ten years' ? What the hell are they going to do for the next TEN YEARS? Thats 3650 DAYS... of doing what?

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          • greatjob!
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 909

            Originally posted by sdsurfin
            For example, when a whole beard hair is implanted in scalp, it begins to turn into a normal scalp hair. Clearly, the surrounding sells are sending signals that changes the behavior of that whole follicle.
            That's not true. Transplanted hairs are donor specific and retain their original donor characteristics. Beard and body hair don't transform into head hair when they are transplanted, they remain the same as they were in the donor.

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            • BDDFreak
              Member
              • Dec 2013
              • 77

              I'm so confused about George cotseralis. Is his team working on hair multiplication or the whole wounding thing? This article published this month says he hasn't even started human clinical trials yet, what a joke.

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              • Banana Republic
                Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 48

                Originally posted by hellouser
                I seriously want to hurt someone when I read this kind of bullsh*t. Why TEN years? What's the effing hold up? Did they really crack the final piece of the puzzle, call it a day and say 'we'll come back in ten years' ? What the hell are they going to do for the next TEN YEARS? Thats 3650 DAYS... of doing what?
                My guess: planning long-term research projects to maintain their importance and viability as researchers, collecting grant money, attending meetings, and holding meetings to plan future meetings. Or something like that.

                I think, as researchers, it's not in their interest to solve this problem overnight. The longer it takes, the better. It means continued funding.

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                • walrus
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 298

                  I seriously want to hurt someone when I read this kind of bullsh*t. Why TEN years? What's the effing hold up? Did they really crack the final piece of the puzzle, call it a day and say 'we'll come back in ten years' ? What the hell are they going to do for the next TEN YEARS? Thats 3650 DAYS... of doing what?
                  Originally posted by Banana Republic
                  My guess: planning long-term research projects to maintain their importance and viability as researchers, collecting grant money, attending meetings, and holding meetings to plan future meetings. Or something like that.

                  I think, as researchers, it's not in their interest to solve this problem overnight. The longer it takes, the better. It means continued funding.
                  Can either of you do it any faster?

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                  • nameless
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 965

                    Originally posted by walrus
                    Can either of you do it any faster?
                    I don't really think it will take 10 years. I think they just say stuff like that to keep bald people from getting their hopes up prematurely. I think it will probably take no more than 2 years. I think that there are a lot of researchers working on this very issue now. I think that the research receded for a few years because everyone thought that between replicel, Aderans, Follica, and Histogen one of these companies would produce a breakthrough cure. Since that hasn't happened it looks like the researchers are back in full force trying to find a way past the last few obstacles.

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                    • yeahyeahyeah
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 1776

                      Originally posted by hellouser
                      I seriously want to hurt someone when I read this kind of bullsh*t. Why TEN years? What's the effing hold up? Did they really crack the final piece of the puzzle, call it a day and say 'we'll come back in ten years' ? What the hell are they going to do for the next TEN YEARS? Thats 3650 DAYS... of doing what?
                      You stop posting on this web site and live your life.

                      I have stopped checking this place because it's the same rehashed material being posted.

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                      • Mike K
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 198

                        Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                        You stop posting on this web site and live your life.

                        I have stopped checking this place because it's the same rehashed material being posted.
                        If you truly stopped checking this place, you would not be posting now! There's the door...

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                        • greatjob!
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 909

                          Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                          You stop posting on this web site and live your life.

                          I have stopped checking this place because it's the same rehashed material being posted.
                          I'm glad you quit posting here concidering you have a perfect head of hair.

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                          • yeahyeahyeah
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 1776

                            Originally posted by Mike K
                            If you truly stopped checking this place, you would not be posting now! There's the door...
                            I check from time to time see if there is anything new.

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                            • hellouser
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 4419

                              Originally posted by walrus
                              Can either of you do it any faster?
                              You give me their resources, funding and past knowledge... I would LAUGH at the idea of taking 10 years to do put the theory into practice.

                              Let's not pretend like 10 years is acceptable. That's friggin' pitiful.

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                              • greatjob!
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 909

                                Originally posted by hellouser
                                You give me their resources, funding and past knowledge... I would LAUGH at the idea of taking 10 years to do put the theory into practice.

                                Let's not pretend like 10 years is acceptable. That's friggin' pitiful.
                                LOL!! Yes give me all the knowledge, all the money, and all the resources and I will fix everything....troll level= 1000

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