Final Days: Chinese Scientists Have Solved the DP Culturing Problem! (2014)

[Dazza]

What about India?

No thanks. After the amount of crap Mr Nigam's can get away with over there I'd rather pass. Not just him tho most the doctors in the hairloss/weightloss field over there are out for one thing, Your money. They couldn't care less for your health. Nigam is living proof of this.

[sascha]

Man. I really wish this stuff is progressing as fast as my hair loss
But I´m convinced once the first steps are taken this will take off, maybe even sooner as we would think. just like a motiviated guy trying to lose some weight

[karxxx]

total alopeci a bread donor

my bald head exactly zero donor.

Is it possible to clone my beard?

After transport to deal with?

Please provide your information

[Kudu]

Good, the faster they come out with a commercial product, the faster we can fly our bald heads to china and dump some serious cash into their economy.

I'll stay longer and do some touring while im there too, so they'd kill two birds with one stone.

I agree. Seeing china and getting a cure at the same time would be really convenient, I was planning on going there this summer, but if things keep progressing, I may just wait a few years and go somewhere else

[tonypizza]

Anyway, now almost 10 years later (after publication of the European paper, for example), I always find it amusing when some baldies get excited when some "scientists" on this planet create some hairs in a petri dish - or "a" wispy hair on a mouse's back.... and start "the final cure is near" trash.

To be fair, proof of concept is an important milestone in any research project. I agree though, waiting for the results from any of the researchers in this field to become scalable has become something of a comedy

[nameless]

What about Somalia, North Korea or Syria?

No thanks!

But I think that cell treatments are already legal in India so if a cellular cure was invented then I think Indian docs could start performing that treatment literally immediately.

[nameless]

By the summer? LOL, don't kid yourself, no health ministry will allow a cure to come to the public THAT fast even if it were found yesterday.

What about India?

[nameless]

I think both IronMan and Arashi are actually saying the same thing on the facts related to the experiments.

The only difference is, IM has this tone like there is some kind of scam, or lie, and these facts are not to be taken as positive news because they have not achieved the ultimate cure.

Arashi, more objectively in my opinion, puts the facts related to the experiments in the right perspective i.e. in their context. The experiments were designed to show partial steps for the achievement of a final cure. If those steps can be put together in a new experiments, we really are basically waiting for it to be done in clinical trials.

I still do not understand if the Taiwanese clinical trials will include a combination of the Tsuji and Chinese experiments, to combine creation of the follicle following Tsuji's method with DP cells that will be able to undergo that growth.

I agree with you. I think Arishi's analysis looks accurate. And I'm also interested in whether or not the Taiwanese are aware of the new information so they can use the new information to create better results. I also wonder if the Taiwanese group has seen the new study by Cotseralis which also looks like it may be helpful to produce quality cells. Here is Cotseralis's new study:

http://www.sciencecodex.com/converting_adult_human_cells_to_hairfolliclegenerating_stem_cells-126870

How can we get all of this info into the hands of the Taiwanese group? I don't know any staff-person's on the Taiwanese group so I don't think they'd pay much attention to any email I could send them with all of this new information.

We need someone who is in contact with the Taiwanese group to give all of this new information to the Taiwanese group.

[nameless]

they could do it right away and I guess they are. It would make sense to do that last experiment before moving onto the next step: clinical trials (although these guys in Taiwan are already starting that). The whole experiment would probably take about 2 months, so give them some time. I hope/expect to see such result before summer !

Arishi it seems that the Taiwanese group are not doing the culture as effectively as this new Chinese group. Could we possibly pass the Chinese info onto the Taiwanese group in the hopes that they might try the Chinese group's method?

[nameless]

Well keep in mind that:
1) Tsuji labs already proved that this is the last step
2) Jahoda grew hair on human skin, but his method needed improvement to retain gene expression
3) These Chinese solved that last part.
4) That Taiwanese group is starting clinical trails with 3d cultured DP cells NOW, you can bet that they take info like this into account.

So the future does look bright. Very bright indeed !

Arishi, I see where you're going with Items 1 - 4 and I hope you're right that the Taiwanese group takes this new info into account. And how do you think this new info will play in combination with the other recent information coming out of the University of Pennsylvania team with Cotseralis? Here is that information:

http://www.sciencecodex.com/converting_adult_human_cells_to_hairfolliclegenerating_stem_cells-126870

Does all this information combined equal a cure for hair loss and are the Taiwanese paying attention to this new information? If they aren't noticing this new information perhaps it would be a good if we informed them about all of these new recent events so they could incorporate all of the new information into their studies?????

[DesperateOne]

The trials really shouldn't take that long as well, which is a good thing. There is no placebo test or anything. I would like it to be a trial with people with different color hair, see how they respond. Transplant the hair and in 4 months, bam, hair retries all nice. The only problem I can see is the so called hairloss shock after a transplant.

[hellouser]

All I can say is the western world especially Uk most guys shave it and don't give a fu*k. The Chinese however take pride in their appearance, nice skin, features and especially hair. Chinese are know for their beautifull hair and skin, but these days somehow they are balding, blaming the western diet etc. I reckon they care more about their hair than any western country, hence why I can see them being more desperate for a cure.

Good, the faster they come out with a commercial product, the faster we can fly our bald heads to china and dump some serious cash into their economy.

I'll stay longer and do some touring while im there too, so they'd kill two birds with one stone.

[Jazz1]

All I can say is the western world especially Uk most guys shave it and don't give a fu*k. The Chinese however take pride in their appearance, nice skin, features and especially hair. Chinese are know for their beautifull hair and skin, but these days somehow they are balding, blaming the western diet etc. I reckon they care more about their hair than any western country, hence why I can see them being more desperate for a cure.

[534623]

why? I'm speaking Swedish, English and German that has to be enough Better THEY brace themselves, because baldies from abroad are coming.

Actually you'll only need to put your finger on the spots where you want more hair

Right - as they said this in 2005/2006 already (actually since decades). But I think you (and most other guys here)
will rather end-up like the guy in the bottom right corner in this article ...

[ytterligare]

why? I'm speaking Swedish, English and German that has to be enough Better THEY brace themselves, because baldies from abroad are coming. Actually you'll only need to put your finger on the spots where you want more hair