Final Days: Chinese Scientists Have Solved the DP Culturing Problem! (2014)

[hellouser]

But the thing is that 'checking' is exactly what people like Nigam do NOT do ! Of course, if everything would be checked correctly and if they wouldnt do blatantly idiotic things like injecting uncentrifuged animal serum, then in theory it could be relatively safe. But we're talking about India and people like Nigam.

I'm not saying they're all Nigams out there. In fact I'm sure there will be some bright and honest doctors out there. But just saying, India is not the first world and you have to be very cautions when deciding to do experimental treatments in such countries.

And guys like him deserve to have their shit kicked in. Why this hasn't happened yet is a mystery in itself. We'd need a CREDIBLE maverick to take lead on stem cell methods... perhaps someone in the states opening up a clinic in India just to bypass the FDA's bullshit regulations?

[Arashi]

But here's the thing;

If the cells are being multiplied and turned into follicles, you're essentially cloning the organ that would need to be implanted into a recipient area... but you don't need to implant the follicle to see for safety, you can check the follicle for inconsistencies beforehand.

It's an exact duplicate... there should be zero problems.

But the thing is that 'checking' is exactly what people like Nigam do NOT do ! Of course, if everything would be checked correctly and if they wouldnt do blatantly idiotic things like injecting uncentrifuged animal serum, then in theory it could be relatively safe. But we're talking about India and people like Nigam.

I'm not saying they're all Nigams out there. In fact I'm sure there will be some bright and honest doctors out there. But just saying, India is not the first world and you have to be very cautions when deciding to do experimental treatments in such countries.

[hellouser]

I tend to agree with him though. You have to be extremely cautious when going to a 3rd world country like India. Look what happened with Dr Nigam. He injected people with animal serum without centrifuging the animal cells. That's extremely dangerous and could very well lead to cancer.

I'm not saying people shouldnt do experimental treatments, but they do need to be very careful, cause I think most of the people who went to Nigam didnt realize what danger they've put themselves in ...

But here's the thing;

If the cells are being multiplied and turned into follicles, you're essentially cloning the organ that would need to be implanted into a recipient area... but you don't need to implant the follicle to see for safety, you can check the follicle for inconsistencies beforehand.

It's an exact duplicate... there should be zero problems.

[Arashi]

I tend to agree with him though. You have to be extremely cautious when going to a 3rd world country like India. Look what happened with Dr Nigam. He injected people with animal serum without centrifuging the animal cells. That's extremely dangerous and could very well lead to cancer.

I'm not saying people shouldnt do experimental treatments, but they do need to be very careful, cause I think most of the people who went to Nigam didnt realize what danger they've put themselves in ...

[35YrsAfter]

Is it really? And what should we do if we want a good hair transplant instead? I have a feeling you want us to get a hair transplant.

I work at Dr. Cole's office and I'm also a patient from 2006. I had poor hair restoration work when I was younger and had to live with it for many years. My brother lost his hair and shaves his head. That is preferable IMO to an unnatural hair transplant. I'm speaking from experience. I'm personally not interested in anyone getting anything they don't want.


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[hellouser]

Is it really? And what should we do if we want a good hair transplant instead? I have a feeling you want us to get a hair transplant.

Of course he does... that soliciting sign off after every post of his is evidence of that. He'd be out of a job if transplants were (and should be) irrelevant in exchange for superior and proper alternatives.

However, transplants will still have their place anyway so they got nothing to worry about.

[Thinning87]

Men are often very private regarding the demoralizing impact hair loss has on their lives. Being the victim of bad hair transplant surgery is worse than being bald.

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Is it really? And what should we do if we want a good hair transplant instead? I have a feeling you want us to get a hair transplant.

[BoSox]

I really wish we could get Spencer's opinion about this. I just explained to my brother that they finally solved hair loss, but I'm worried that I'm getting his hopes up.

I'm fortunate, been on propecia since 07, saved most my hair. My poor brother since then has lost most his hair, and hasn't been the same since. As much as I want this to be true, I want it more for my brother and others in the same situation.

Please hurry.

[hellouser]

I wonder how many suicides occur each year as a result of hair loss and social withdrawal.

Social withdrawal we'll never know... If it's not acceptable to be bald and not acceptable for men to show weakness, you'll rarely see a man open up about his hair loss affliction. Men with hair loss get ZERO empathy.

[hellouser]

Men are often very private regarding the demoralizing impact hair loss has on their lives. Being the victim of bad hair transplant surgery is worse than being bald.

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Being the victim of an ugly strip scar from FUT is also depressing.

[35YrsAfter]

I wonder how many suicides occur each year as a result of hair loss and social withdrawal.

Men are often very private regarding the demoralizing impact hair loss has on their lives. Being the victim of bad hair transplant surgery is worse than being bald.

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[cichlidfort]

ugh - can we stop with these yawn-worthy threads about 'miraculous findings of some Taiwan/Chinese research team' a million miles away?

The 'better treatment' we're all hoping for is half a century off, we're down to about 3 companies who are all in financial difficulty and ALL unable to show any solid proof their concepts grow ANY new hair whatsoever.

Its over - I'd check-out of this forum and perhaps return in erm... *looks at watch*.... 30 - 40 years maybe? Then we should be about 5 years off from a better treatment (not a cure).

You really are a cancer to this forum. You must love being bald. 50 years away? LOL....run along and go play somewhere else.

[tonypizza]

I wonder how many suicides occur each year as a result of hair loss and social withdrawal.

[35YrsAfter]

Then wait 5 years (or longer) for it to come to come to market elsewhere.

Those may be your only choices. India is one of the few places where cell treatments are legal so if you're unwilling to get cellular treatment early in India then just hunker-in for the 5 year (or longer) wait to get the treatment elsewhere.

Just because something is legal doesn't make it safe. One of the major roadblocks is safety. Cancer is a very real danger with some experimental treatments. Worst case scenario... The treatment doesn't work and you die of cancer in 7 years. I am optimistic this problem can be overcome, but until any treatment is proven safe, I would never volunteer as a test subject.

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[nameless]

No thanks. After the amount of crap Mr Nigam's can get away with over there I'd rather pass. Not just him tho most the doctors in the hairloss/weightloss field over there are out for one thing, Your money. They couldn't care less for your health. Nigam is living proof of this.

Then wait 5 years (or longer) for it to come to come to market elsewhere.

Those may be your only choices. India is one of the few places where cell treatments are legal so if you're unwilling to get cellular treatment early in India then just hunker-in for the 5 year (or longer) wait to get the treatment elsewhere.