Final Days: Chinese Scientists Have Solved the DP Culturing Problem! (2014)

[nameless]

What Is This?
http://www.promocell.com/products/hu...papilla-cells/

Follicle cells are meaningless if they don't keep their inductivity.

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I doubt someone in the USA will do that.. but I hope so. Maybe someone should start looking for some reputable doctors/bio phds in Asia and approaching them with a multi-million dollar opportunity though.

Hairbane, can I make a point here? Is there any possibility that Nigam isn't as bad a guy as his critics say he is? Is there any chance that he doesn't brag and embellish his greatness any worse than the other hair doctors out there? Aren't virtually all hair doctors out there exaggerating some what? Aren't they all embellishing? Aren't they all putting their best results out in front?

I ask because once cell therapy can "cure" hair loss it might be best to consider Nigam, or a doctor like him in India, so that we can possibly get the treatment sooner than waiting for the rest of the world to make it available.

Can I point something out without everybody screaming that I'm a Nigam-apologist and getting all po'd? Maybe Nigam was just doing questionable things because he was unable to "cure" hair loss with the knowledge that he's had to this point.

Basically, Nigam springboards off the knowledge major scientists have publicized so that limits the amount of hair growth Nigam can achieve. He can only achieve the amount of hair growth that is made possible by the information major scientists release. AND since the amount of regrowth he could achieve has been limited (by what major scientists publicized) doesn't that leave open the possibility that if the major scientists publicized enough information that he could actually get great regrowth then maybe he might stop doing things that are questionable.

In other words, maybe Nigam has only done questionable things because he didn't have the ability to give the great regrowth that people want. But maybe if he did have the ability to give the great regrowth that people want he would cease all questionable activity.

After all, doesn't it seem that he would feel more pressure to do questionable stuff if he couldn't give people the regrowth that they want, but once he could give people the regrowth that they want then he might not have a reason to do questionable stuff?

In other words, everything that we're complaining about Nigam might be just because he was unable to give us what we want so he had to stretch and manipulate but once he can give us what we want then there would be no reason for that.

My point is that if the major scientists really do cure hair loss then perhaps we shouldn't rule out Nigam or guys like Nigam to get the treatment earlier. It just seems to me that if Nigam could give us what we want (full regrowth) then he would have a lot less reason to be gamey about the whole thing than if he couldn't give us full regrowth.

I'm just sayin'

[ChemicalBrother]

What Is This?
http://www.promocell.com/products/hu...papilla-cells/

cells for research

[zeos]

What Is This?

http://www.promocell.com/products/human-primary-cells/follicle-dermal-papilla-cells/

[Desmond84]

Desmond - sorry to hijack. How's your Fin usage coming along? keep asking, you keep ignoring.. Thanks

Hey JCM

I've now been taking 0.25 mg of fin for 20 months. My hair loss has completely stopped and my temples have filled in a little bit. All sides are gone except for morning wood not being there on some days hope that helps.

PS. I always replied. It's just that my posts must be read by a moderator first and by the time it gets displayed we are 1-2 pages past my post lol. Hope you see this one

[Jcm800]

Desmond - sorry to hijack. How's your Fin usage coming along? keep asking, you keep ignoring.. Thanks

[Jasari]

The pictures you show us don't mean anything, see this guy in real life and then you can tell me how scarless FUE really is. If pilofocus works it will be the biggest breakthrough in HT's ever. Trust me even guys with limited donor will be able to have great transformations by moving more grafts than ever before.And more importantly you can use them all in the centre and in the front and buzz the crown along with the sides with NO scarring! You just have to be creative in hairstyles, i am sure a military crewcut will look better in most that the total shave!



Of course there won't be no hair were extracted but if you SMP there(unlike in the hairline that people do it now) you can cover the lack of density and look great. you can't add SMP to the little scars of FUE now...

To be honest Scarless FUE is nonsense. I got your stock standard FUE of 2100 grafts and at 7 days nobody would have any clue I'd had anything done if you we're only looking at my donor. At 10 days you couldn't tell I had anything done full stop.

This whole no scarring thing really doesn't seem like a big deal to me. I know for myself personally I have a tiny amount of scarring if I razor shave - Something I can see if I look closely but no-one else notices.

At a number 1 - Any scarring via FUE (That I've had) is invisible. I can search for up to 5 minutes and find nothing.

For what is such a small cosmetic difference in comparison to FUE; I wish their attention would be focused on increasing the donor.

[Number47]

Yeah, SCARRING!

So unsightly:



Seriously, who would notice that outside the hair loss world? And it's only 7 days after the FUE.

How long will I have to wait before I'll be able to do pilofocus for 2000 grafts at the price of 5000€? Something like forever right?

The pictures you show us don't mean anything, see this guy in real life and then you can tell me how scarless FUE really is. If pilofocus works it will be the biggest breakthrough in HT's ever. Trust me even guys with limited donor will be able to have great transformations by moving more grafts than ever before.And more importantly you can use them all in the centre and in the front and buzz the crown along with the sides with NO scarring! You just have to be creative in hairstyles, i am sure a military crewcut will look better in most that the total shave!



Of course there won't be no hair were extracted but if you SMP there(unlike in the hairline that people do it now) you can cover the lack of density and look great. you can't add SMP to the little scars of FUE now...

[youngin]

True, but at least it won't have the moth eaten look. I'm interested in what Pilofocus can do with the hairline at the nape; remove a 1-2cm strip from the bottom of the nape, perhaps even ear to ear harvesting ALL the grafts without any scarring, essentially giving the back of your head a 'receded hairline'. You'd then still have plenty of donor hair left above that area.

I was really interested in Pilofocus when we all first heard about it, but the fact is... its not going to achieve anything that's not already achievable. FUE and Acell/PRP can already do for all intents and purposes: scarless FUE. Look at Dr Cole's results. The only way it could be better is if it was cheaper and faster.

[Sogeking]

This is still too far off, no one has even started with clinical trials it is all still lab work. I this works on human skin which I really hope it does, and I really hope will see it in May, then they have to start with clinical trials and those last at least a decade.
Don't believe me? Check when Histogen, Aderans and Replicel started their clinical trials and where they are now.

Sure everyone hopes that other Asian countries have less strict regulations, and I am hoping for that as well but that does not mean they will hold trials there, they might concentrate on USA or Europe first.
I am hoping more for CB to actually work and I was really glad to hear about the Taiwanese starting the trials. However we need more info about those Taiwan trials, we are totally in the dark on that.

[HairBane]

True, but at least it won't have the moth eaten look. I'm interested in what Pilofocus can do with the hairline at the nape; remove a 1-2cm strip from the bottom of the nape, perhaps even ear to ear harvesting ALL the grafts without any scarring, essentially giving the back of your head a 'receded hairline'. You'd then still have plenty of donor hair left above that area.

I have so much neck fluff they could use.

[hellouser]

I'm sorry but, even with pilofocus, if there is no scarring, it will look the same.

There will still be no hair where it was extracted. It's common sense.

True, but at least it won't have the moth eaten look. I'm interested in what Pilofocus can do with the hairline at the nape; remove a 1-2cm strip from the bottom of the nape, perhaps even ear to ear harvesting ALL the grafts without any scarring, essentially giving the back of your head a 'receded hairline'. You'd then still have plenty of donor hair left above that area.

[fred970]

I'm sorry but, even with pilofocus, if there is no scarring, it will look the same.

There will still be no hair where it was extracted. It's common sense.

[Kalio]

Why wouldn't Pilofocus be cheap? It's less labor intensive and I recall Dr.Wesley himself claiming it would be on par with current FUE prices.

[hellouser]

Yeah, SCARRING!

So unsightly:



Seriously, who would notice that outside the hair loss world? And it's only 7 days after the FUE.

How long will I have to wait before I'll be able to do pilofocus for 2000 grafts at the price of 5000€? Something like forever right?

Yep, unsightly. Thanks for the image, just shows how bad it is and how much worse it would be shaven down more so.

And yeah, Pilofocus won't be cheap.