Final Days: Chinese Scientists Have Solved the DP Culturing Problem! (2014)

[nameless]

How did Nigam get tied in this Chinese discovery? I thought Nigam was a fraud?

The issue is how can we take advantage of these new discoveries that are coming now instead of waiting until they come to mainstream markets in 6 years or longer?

[nameless]

If you don't understand the difference between being wanted by the police and solve a dispute in court, the discussion is pointless.

Yea I do understand. A criminal charge is even harder to prove so there is a greater likelihood that Nigam will beat any criminal charge against him than Hitzig would beat the civil charge against him and yet Hitzig did exactly that.

[Dazza]

Winston / Mods

Can you remove all "nigam" related posts from this thread.

It's now starting to derail the thread and is spiralling out of control. It also has absolutely nothing to do with the threads topic.

Thankyou.

[Arashi]

What's going on though? Is Nigam still working with Mwamba? Are we going to get any updates?

From what I understood Nigam is not working with Mwamba anymore. Anyway please discuss Nigam elsewhere.

[Breaking Bald]

What's going on though? Is Nigam still working with Mwamba? Are we going to get any updates?

[cichlidfort]

How did Nigam get tied in this Chinese discovery? I thought Nigam was a fraud?

[Arashi]

* Now you're the one who's lying. Even Hairman, who doesn't want to agree with me about anything, called you out for lying about one case.

What case ? Nigam has 0 succesful cases. If you mean that case where he changed patients and you still are telling people that's it's the same guy, wow, then THAT is your proof ? A guy who totally changed facial features in his after photo ? Where moles suddenly move positions ? THAT is your one and only proof that Nigam actually can do something ? Haha. And even IF it WERE the same guy: how do you know he didnt just transplant the hairs ? There were no macro photo's at all for that specific case.

I have definitely seen before and after patients of cellular injection treatments by Dr. Nigam that show significant improvement in the after pics.

Yeah, just as with Pilox, right. Every time there's a scammer putting up a picture where he changed some aspect KNOWN to make hair look denser, like angle and lighting, some slightly longer hair and/or some concealer, you go "WOOOOW IT WORKS !!" And every single time it proved you were WRONG.

* As far as Nigam lying and cheating goes, you could put every hair transplant doctors name in the world on a wall and throw a dart at that wall and hit the name of a hair transplant doctor who has embellished, exaggerated, even lied. They're all doing it. That means it's industry standard and if one doctor doesn't do it then he will lose financially.

This point is just TOO stupid to even reply to. Name me one Doctor, not from India, who did similar things like Nigam did. Just one. ONE ! And in India I can only name 2: Nigam and his ex manager, dr Shere. They really deserve each other.

If we out-and-out reject the idea of going to Nigam if and when information surfaces that could truly cure hair loss if the doctor followed the script, then what is the alternative that you would have for us?

First of all, it's better to do NOTHING then to wire your money to someone who will NOT improve your situation, but possibily even detoriate it and will put your live in great danger. Secondly, there are thousands of doctors in India, and I'm sure 99% of them are way smarter than Nigam. Why would you want to go to a cheater a liar and a thief instead ? That makes 0 sense.

You call Nigam scammy but what about you? Not only have you lied when you said that Nigam has had zero successful cases, but you are also intentionally withholding the fact that if we out-and-out reject the idea of working with Nigam if new info comes out that really could work if we could get Nigam to follow the script then what you are telling us is that as things stand right now your recommendation is to accept that we should wait 6 - 8 years for the treatment to reach the mainstream markets? Why don't you just come out and say it?

I NEVER lied. That's one. And for the rest, see my point above.

* At least I have the guts to lay the truth out there.

No. You dont have any guts at all. Quite the contrary. If you had guts, you would go to Nigam yourself. Instead you come onto these forums to tell people how great Nigam is and you're hoping some desperate baldies will go to him so Nigam can perform his Frankenstein experiments on them. You hope that if he does enough of these Frankenstein experiments, one day he will find something and then YOU will go. You dont care AT ALL about the fact that Nigam puts their lives in great danger and that he steals their money by selling therapies he knows dont work at all. You just care about yourself. That's the opposite of having guts. Besides it's incredibly stupid to think Nigam is even capable of finding a cure. He's nothing but a scam artist and not exactly a smart one .

[baldingormature]

Not to be rude, but could you guys take this argument to PMs?

I came to this thread to read updates, but it's turned into sifting through tons of posts in which people are arguing about something completely irrelevant.

[ChemicalBrother]

could we like stop talking about Nigam for 8 weeks or something ?
this is really depressing ... and that's the last thing we need on this forums.
Let's talk about the positive steps that are taken by the Chinese, the thing that originated this thread ...

[Vox]

Lots of hair transplant doctors have been taken to court.

If you don't understand the difference between being wanted by the police and solve a dispute in court, the discussion is pointless.

[walrus]

if new info comes out that really could work if we could get Nigam to follow the script

What makes you so sure that Nigam would be CAPABLE of carrying out said future hypothetical treatment?

[nameless]

We don't talk about eventual failures. This can happen to anyone. We talk about a fraud.

As of last month, officially Nigam was wanted by the Mumbai Police:

Meanwhile, H R Parmale, senior police inspector at Versova police station, confirmed that Dr Nigam is wanted and that they are on the lookout for him.

This is the first known and documented case of a hair transplant doctor hiding in order to escape arrest:

“When I informed the police that Dr Nigam could be found at his clinic and should be arrested, the investigating officer said that his team was searching for him but that he was untraceable,” added Dr Shere.

The accusation though says that the police tried actually to shield him instead of arresting him. Go figure.

And hiding in his office. Whoda thunk to check his office of all places?

Lots of hair transplant doctors have been taken to court. Some have won. Charges mean nothing; it's convictions that matter. Dr. Hitzig got hauled into court and he won:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/hair-raising-tale-deceit-article-1.176678

[Vox]

3. Do you realize that all, 100%, of hair doctors have some cases of poor results?

We don't talk about eventual failures. This can happen to anyone. We talk about a fraud.

As of last month, officially Nigam was wanted by the Mumbai Police:

Meanwhile, H R Parmale, senior police inspector at Versova police station, confirmed that Dr Nigam is wanted and that they are on the lookout for him.

This is the first known and documented case of a hair transplant doctor hiding in order to escape arrest:

“When I informed the police that Dr Nigam could be found at his clinic and should be arrested, the investigating officer said that his team was searching for him but that he was untraceable,” added Dr Shere.

The accusation though says that the police tried actually to shield him instead of arresting him. Go figure.

[nameless]

Pfff JarJarbinx you still don't get it eh. Nigam lied and cheated. He not only sold therapies that he know didnt work, he put the lives of his patients in great danger, by injecting uncentrifuged animal serum, as per accounts of an UK patient, Tom and Boldy. This is not a doctor 'who just had some bad cases'. This is a doctor who had NO succesful cases AT ALL. Yet he told everyone he had that, he told he could transform NW7 patients into NW2's and whatsmore. He sold people lies. How you still can have even the tiniest bit of respect respect for such a ruthless scam artist, is beyond me.

I'm not going to have this discussion again with you. You can read all there's to say here: http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=14690 and that's that.

* Now you're the one who's lying. Even Hairman, who doesn't want to agree with me about anything, called you out for lying about one case. I have definitely seen before and after patients of cellular injection treatments by Dr. Nigam that show significant improvement in the after pics. You're just out-and-out lying now.

* As far as Nigam lying and cheating goes, you could put every hair transplant doctors name in the world on a wall and throw a dart at that wall and hit the name of a hair transplant doctor who has embellished, exaggerated, even lied. They're all doing it. That means it's industry standard and if one doctor doesn't do it then he will lose financially.


* If I were to reject ALL of the hair doctors who have exaggerated, lied, or embellished, then that would leave no doctors for me to go to about my hair loss once a cure does become available.

* You have not answered my questions.

* If we out-and-out reject the idea of going to Nigam if and when information surfaces that could truly cure hair loss if the doctor followed the script, then what is the alternative that you would have for us?

* You call Nigam scammy but what about you? Not only have you lied when you said that Nigam has had zero successful cases, but you are also intentionally withholding the fact that if we out-and-out reject the idea of working with Nigam if new info comes out that really could work if we could get Nigam to follow the script then what you are telling us is that as things stand right now your recommendation is to accept that we should wait 6 - 8 years for the treatment to reach the mainstream markets? Why don't you just come out and say it?

* At least I have the guts to lay the truth out there. I know I'm going to get bashed for even suggesting that Nigam is one of the alternatives we should consider if cellular breakthrough info surfaces, but I still say it. I say it, I get bashed, I deal with it.

* Why don't you just come out and say that as things stand right now it is your recommendation that we all wait 6 - 8 years for treatment even if breakthrough cellular information that would cure hair loss is released soon?

[Arashi]

Pfff JarJarbinx you still don't get it eh. Nigam lied and cheated. He not only sold therapies that he know didnt work, he put the lives of his patients in great danger, by injecting uncentrifuged animal serum, as per accounts of an UK patient, Tom and Boldy. This is not a doctor 'who just had some bad cases'. This is a doctor who had NO succesful cases AT ALL. Yet he told everyone he had that, he told he could transform NW7 patients into NW2's and whatsmore. He sold people lies. How you still can have even the tiniest bit of respect respect for such a ruthless scam artist, is beyond me.

I'm not going to have this discussion again with you. You can read all there's to say here: http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=14690 and that's that.