Final Days: Chinese Scientists Have Solved the DP Culturing Problem! (2014)

[lilpauly]

Me to .

I'm actually going to visit Dan26 over summer, hellouser u in Canada?

[hellouser]

I'm actually going to visit Dan26 over summer, hellouser u in Canada?

Yup, Toronto as well.

[lilpauly]

Yup, Toronto as well.

Awesome man!!! We should hang out at the bar and find hot girls , maybe by then we will have the cure lol

[hellouser]

Awesome man!!! We should hang out at the bar and find hot girls , maybe by then we will have the cure lol

By the summer? LOL, don't kid yourself, no health ministry will allow a cure to come to the public THAT fast even if it were found yesterday.

[rdawg]

Yup, Toronto as well.

Toronto here too!

we should team up on group buys for CB potentially

[Dan26]

Toronto here too!

we should team up on group buys for CB potentially

Seems like theres a lot of Toronto guys on the forum

All this cold weather and pollution is killing our follicles brah!

[35YrsAfter]

I agree with you I think the whole world is fed who with Ba**** corrupt FDA trying to be the world boss. Its about time people told them to get stuffed and people around the world should start taking their business some where else. I for one would truly pay my business in a different country rather than those FDA Goons.

Corruption and corporate money "influence" is a problem worldwide. The FDA like nearly everything else in life, is a mixed bag. For example, the FDA has its heroes and heroines. I might have spelled heroines, "heroins". Unfortunately more people die from legally prescribed drugs than illegally obtained substances.

On the other hand, in the sixties, pharmacologist Frances Kelsey, Ph.D., M.D.,famous reviewer for the U.S. FDA refused to authorize thalidomide for market because she had concerns about the drug's safety. Her concerns were justified when it was proven that thalidomide caused serious birth defects in European countries where it was available. Kelsey's career intersected with the passage of laws strengthening the FDA's oversight of pharmaceuticals.

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[hellouser]

Corruption and corporate money "influence" is a problem worldwide. The FDA like nearly everything else in life, is a mixed bag. For example, the FDA has its heroes and heroines. I might have spelled heroines, "heroins". Unfortunately more people die from legally prescribed drugs than illegally obtained substances.

On the other hand, in the sixties, pharmacologist Frances Kelsey, Ph.D., M.D.,famous reviewer for the U.S. FDA refused to authorize thalidomide for market because she had concerns about the drug's safety. Her concerns were justified when it was proven that thalidomide caused serious birth defects in European countries where it was available. Kelsey's career intersected with the passage of laws strengthening the FDA's oversight of pharmaceuticals.

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We're not dealing with a chemical drug this time around, we're dealing with our own cells. No matter how you look at it, the length of time the FDA imposes on biotechs is disgusting and intolerable.

[35YrsAfter]

Legit Reasons for Caution

We're not dealing with a chemical drug this time around, we're dealing with our own cells.

There are legitimate risks that must be considered.

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[hellouser]

There are legitimate risks that must be considered.

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That's what safety trials are for. I'm not saying we should bypass all the trials and let biotechs have a free-for-all, my argument is that the average 10-15 years for a new drug to hit the market is unacceptable. Nearly all of us don't have 15 years to wait on a new treatment approved by the FDA... if even approved.

15 years is total bullshit.

[rdawg]

That's what safety trials are for. I'm not saying we should bypass all the trials and let biotechs have a free-for-all, my argument is that the average 10-15 years for a new drug to hit the market is unacceptable. Nearly all of us don't have 15 years to wait on a new treatment approved by the FDA... if even approved.

15 years is total bullshit.

Should be a two-phase system rather than 3.

1st is initial safety phase for one year.

2nd is large safety/efficacy phase for 2 years(part one is big group just for safety, then 2nd year is bigger group for efficacy if it passes)

after that maybe a limited release then extended. I just never understand when a company like say Histogen proves efficacy, but then they have to pay millions for a third phase just to get the same results.

[burtandernie]

The proof required for FDA approval should vary by the treatment and its approach. I would argue a topical that has some evidence it works like CB 03 01 poses much less of a risk then say a new immune system drug that is not similar to anything previously done. Require 2 phases for a less dangerous drug and 3 for more risky stuff. If you cant tell just make it the usual but some stuff just has a lot less risk then others.

[hellouser]

The proof required for FDA approval should vary by the treatment and its approach. I would argue a topical that has some evidence it works like CB 03 01 poses much less of a risk then say a new immune system drug that is not similar to anything previously done. Require 2 phases for a less dangerous drug and 3 for more risky stuff. If you cant tell just make it the usual but some stuff just has a lot less risk then others.

Two really good videos touching on the FDA's retarded approval process:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww57tmmecDc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccZLitYuWwQ

Doesn't matter, USA isn't the only country in the world (thank god) so as I've said before, a strong push needs to be made to boycott the FDA and take your business elsewhere.

[JDW]

How does the process compare to the likes of Japan, China even India?

[Atum]

I hope the European Medicines Agency works faster than the FDA.