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Hell yeah! Now it's just a waiting game I guess, thanks for the info
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Can cadavers be useful? Is there any way to supply the scalp and follicles with whatever is necessary for an extended period of time and use that as a test bed instead of relying on living humans for trials?God I hope that they just test it on some Chinese, get somebody of the streets and inject him with this stuff LOL. Seriously hopefully they'll inject it into themselves ? I think Jahoda did that once too. Cause having to wait till they've set up clinical trials, that's going to take months, maybe even uptil a year ?
What about lauster's artificial skin that was supposed to replace animal testing in europe? I know that is a EU mandate, why isnt there any news about whats going on with it?Comment
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This is some pretty good stuff and has much greater potential and scientific breakthroughs than treating androgenetic alopecia.
Still, I am not at all convinced this is a real "cure". It's really just an upgraded hair transplant. It doesn't at all solve the underlying problem (which is the genetic predisposition of hair follicle sensitivity to DHT), and hence will require you to go in for another one of these treatments years down the road. This will also be astronomically expensive and no indication that it will be affordable by the average balding man. However, this combined with CB-03-01 (assuming that pans out) could be the closest thing we have to a cure within this lifetime.
A true cure in every sense of the word would involve a non-invasive procedure to turns an NW7-NW0 along with the new head of hair being completely immune to the ravaging effects of the DHT that caused the hair loss in the first place. I hope we can all agree that we won't see such a "miracle" cure for at least many lifetimes to come.Comment
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Is this what u speak of hell?
And does this basically solve the problem for unlimited donor?Comment
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It's not yet understood why the follicles in the 'safe zone' are DHT resistant, but who knows if they culture DP cells from that region, the resulting follicles might all be DHT resistant too.
And if not .. remember that the follicles are brand new ! So that would probably mean that they can take years and years of DHT stress before dying off again. It's not like you'd need to go every 3 years. But might very well be 20-30 years.Comment
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Here we go: Molten thinks it's not good enough.
We could for the first time in history turn a NW7 into a perfect NW1 but it's not good enough. Because it's invasive.
What do you want Molten? A magic pill that makes all your hair grow back on the spot, Harry Potter style?Comment
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I'm not good at that scientific stuff but this thread title and feedback got me hyped as ****.
Please tell me this is going to restore NW7s to thick NW 0-1's
Anyways, if anything it's not final days but final YEARS
It's going to take years before it's introduced to the commercial everyday use, and it will be expensive as **** at least in the first years.Comment
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Injections of stem cells for hair follicles every 20-30 years is effectively a cure. Hell, you could inject so many and have hair so incredibly dense that even if the your initial follicles from birth were to all disappear you'd have the injected ones left over.
This is totally bad ass!Comment
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I doubt that cure is going to be released anytime earlier than 10 years from now, but in the grand scheme of things it looks like we are getting VERY close indeedComment
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This is true, and we'll still need to get the basic science down before this method can be completely perfected. However, from what we know, I don't think it's correct to say the hair follicles in the back have more DHT resistant properties than those along the hairline. It's just the hair follicles at the front have the highest sensitivity to DHT, which is why the pattern baldness almost always follows the same pattern.
No one knows yet for sure, but I personally think 20-30 years is a bit on the optimistic side, IMO. Especially when you have people who had perfectly healthy hair follicles just before hitting puberty and then are destroyed only a few years after by DHT.Comment
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I can't come to terms that its going to be expensive. Hair transplants takes an insane number of man hours to complete a couple thousand grafts from Point A to Point. The time involved is why an HT is so expensive. Why would extraction, multiplication and injection take so much longer? It should be a fraction of the time.I'm not good at that scientific stuff but this thread title and feedback got me hyped as ****.
Please tell me this is going to restore NW7s to thick NW 0-1's
Anyways, if anything it's not final days but final YEARS
It's going to take years before it's introduced to the commercial everyday use, and it will be expensive as **** at least in the first years.
Yeah, it's going to be expensive, but I cant accept doctors bullshitting us about the costs if theyre not justified. I'll pay for the procedure and then some for doctors to make a profit, but none of us should accept astronomically high costs.Comment
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Don't care about this sh*t. In 20 years it will probably be full of treatments to regrow hair.
We need something now.
What about CB vehicule Einstein?Comment
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It won't be any time soon (remember that CB-03-01 was discovered around 2001, 2002, and is still years away from appearing as a licenced hair loss treatment), research and clinical trials take many years, but it's a very good sign for the future. We won't die bald!Comment
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It's not more about what I want, but rather discussing the underlying scientific principles and what a true "cure" would entail. I personally think current treatments along with these near-future treatments are effective "cures".
But a true cure as in the mythical cure we've been seeking since the dawn of our existence? I don't think that will come anytime soon, if ever.Comment
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