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Whatever happened with Aderans it used to be all anyone talked about and hyped it to no end.Comment
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Their protocol was garbage, it didnt create decent hair (just a few invisible whiskers) and the investors put an end to a decade long clinical trial... people were waiting since 2003 to have their hopes dashed in the space of a few weeks.
Thats the hair loss industry for you, it's one big pile of puke on a rotting corpse.
Aderans = Intercytex
^^There were some individuals on hair loss forums who predicted this would happen many moons ago.
The 3D spheroid angle looks promising, it's all about having a 3D scaffold for the cells to multiply in an environment where the environment communicates to the cells what the cells need to do (i.e. turn into hair follicles)... that's evolutionary biology 101... the only issue is now we have to wait another 15 - 2000 years for all the trials and bullshit before we get a decent treatment (if we ever get one).Comment
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They could go on for another 1,000 years with breakthroughs.... they still haven't produced shit. Until all of us are able to actually take advantage of one of their 'breakthroughs' they haven't got any REAL results.
At some point after waiting for so long, you need to draw the line... a decade is a joke. How much longer should any of us tolerate more of the same old song and dance from these guys.. or any other researcher shill?Comment
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To the people complaining about new articles coming out.
NOONE is forcing you to read up on these articles or to watch the latest headline news about something that may lead to a potential cure. They are not making you pay to hear it so if you don't want to hear or see it, then just ignore. What's the point of complaining on these forums every single day about these researchers who you think are so incompetent. If you can do a better job then do it. You are being like those sports fans who yells "YOU SUCK" comfortably from the stands but wouldn't do any better if thrown into the arena.
You might not be interested in these new studies, but it still must be published and recognized because a percentage of the public is still interested, some of them being potential future scientists and medical researchers. If new scientific findings were never spread, then people won't know about science and everyone would become an accountant, etc. Besides, it is not researchers fault that TV networks gives a flashy headline "HAIR LOSS SUFFERERS REJOICE! POTENTIAL CURE FOR HAIR LOSS FOUND" in order to attract viewers.
A scientist who says "this new study may lead to this or that" has to say that, because every research has to have a WHY the findings are important, otherwise why research it at all?
And no, there is no conspiracy. There are plenty of illnesses that have had much more funding and yet still, there is no cure for. Imagine parents of kids who are born and can't think, or eat on their own (down syndrome) or kids who were born with Tay Sachs disease and their brain deteriorate and die before age 5 ALWAYS.
Tay Sachs disease NO CURE
Its annoys me to see these people who spend their whole lives dedicated to research being lambasted on these forums by people who sit comfortably behind their chair doing nothing.
And to end on a positive note. This guy is losing his hair, and he was born with no arms and no legs and he is doing better than okay. Don't let hair loss stop you guys and don't make it a bigger issue than it is.
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Theyre not even working on hairloss they just show up at the lab every day and diddle mice, make announcents of 'new breakthroughs' every couple years and keeep their comfortable high paying jobsComment
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Mabe I'm just being naive but isn't bitmatoprost coming in 2015. Granted it's not a cure all but hey it's something lol. And replicell's product pipeline says its injector will be read by the end of 2014 and their formula will be approved in the end of 2015 I believe. With Japan's new streamlined way of bringing cell therapies quicker to market maybe it will be even sooner. I believe they were gonna make an announcement regarding Japan and when it may be available this month if I remember correctly. With piloxll also being claimed to be released this year (leaving my skepticism aside) maybe we should be a bit optimistic, or at least wait to cry until the end of 2015 lol.Comment
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folic is going to be the one to solve this..they say they are close to releasing a commercial product, now that could mean in 5 years and not 2 like we hope, but I think the derma rolling community trial assures us that there process works...wounding the skin does produce neogenesis of hair folliclesComment
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Giving an example of someone who may be worse off than someone else is a slap to the face.To the people complaining about new articles coming out.
NOONE is forcing you to read up on these articles or to watch the latest headline news about something that may lead to a potential cure. They are not making you pay to hear it so if you don't want to hear or see it, then just ignore. What's the point of complaining on these forums every single day about these researchers who you think are so incompetent. If you can do a better job then do it. You are being like those sports fans who yells "YOU SUCK" comfortably from the stands but wouldn't do any better if thrown into the arena.
You might not be interested in these new studies, but it still must be published and recognized because a percentage of the public is still interested, some of them being potential future scientists and medical researchers. If new scientific findings were never spread, then people won't know about science and everyone would become an accountant, etc. Besides, it is not researchers fault that TV networks gives a flashy headline "HAIR LOSS SUFFERERS REJOICE! POTENTIAL CURE FOR HAIR LOSS FOUND" in order to attract viewers.
A scientist who says "this new study may lead to this or that" has to say that, because every research has to have a WHY the findings are important, otherwise why research it at all?
And no, there is no conspiracy. There are plenty of illnesses that have had much more funding and yet still, there is no cure for. Imagine parents of kids who are born and can't think, or eat on their own (down syndrome) or kids who were born with Tay Sachs disease and their brain deteriorate and die before age 5 ALWAYS.
Tay Sachs disease NO CURE
Its annoys me to see these people who spend their whole lives dedicated to research being lambasted on these forums by people who sit comfortably behind their chair doing nothing.
And to end on a positive note. This guy is losing his hair, and he was born with no arms and no legs and he is doing better than okay. Don't let hair loss stop you guys and don't make it a bigger issue than it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciYk-UwqFKA
Everyone's problems are relative but too many people dismiss this fact.Comment
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Hair loss is not seen as a condition not by the medical society at large or the general public therefore people with this condition are made to feel as if they don't belong into any sort of group but instead just a laughing stock by society whilst the medical community just gives you that unsympathetic pat on the back and gives you that kinda 'walk it off look' as if you are making a big deal out of nothing, meanwhile there are those "scientists" that just see as cash register that they can withdraw money from whenever they please.
I'm not in any way suggesting that Follica is such a company but there are a great deal of them out there meanwhile the governing groups such as the TGA, FDA stroke their beards and cluck their tongues.
There is good reason for people to be pissed off and if you have been around long enough you will certainly have more than enough reason to be frustrated and disillusioned with the scientific and medical community.
The fact is no one has proven within reason that they have any sort of tangible product which shall relieve us from this situation.
Am I bitter? perhaps!
But you have to admit the hair loss industry is disgrace, if only they would all work together rather than against each other they might achieve something within the next 5 years and I don't mean the magical 5 year number they tend to throw out every few years, if I were to apply the perception of time at which the hair loss community works at then I wouldn't have aged a day in the past 20 years.
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Hair loss is not seen as a condition not by the medical society at large or the general public therefore people with this condition are made to feel as if they don't belong into any sort of group but instead just a laughing stock by society whilst the medical community just gives you that unsympathetic pat on the back and gives you that kinda 'walk it off look' as if you are making a big deal out of nothing, meanwhile there are those "scientists" that just see as cash register that they can withdraw money from whenever they please.
I'm not in any way suggesting that Follica is such a company but there are a great deal of them out there meanwhile the governing groups such as the TGA, FDA stroke their beards and cluck their tongues.
There is good reason for people to be pissed off and if you have been around long enough you will certainly have more than enough reason to be frustrated and disillusioned with the scientific and medical community.
The fact is no one has proven within reason that they have any sort of tangible product which shall relieve us from this situation.
Am I bitter? perhaps!
But you have to admit the hair loss industry is disgrace, if only they would all work together rather than against each other they might achieve something within the next 5 years and I don't mean the magical 5 year number they tend to throw out every few years, if I were to apply the perception of time at which the hair loss community works at then I wouldn't have aged a day in the past 20 years.
Unfortunately, there's a lot of truth to this. Hair loss falls uncomfortably between horribly bad and worthy of sympathy and a trivial annoyance. This leads to an unfortunate lack of empathy. I see that with my own brother and his perfect hair. I only see him a couple times a year and he alternates between "haha, don't you wish you had hair like me" and "jeez, quit complaining it's not important. It's not a big deal."
In my experience that typifies the attitude shared by countless people without hair loss. You can make of fun of them, but it's not bad enough to the point where you should actually feel sorry for them.
The other day a buddy made a similar set of contradictory statements while discussing someone he knew back in college. It went something like:
"XYZ is totally bald now. haha. totally bald. He looks so old. haha."
and later:
"XYZ is such a headcase. He keeps complaining that being bald is making him unpopular with girls. He just doesn't have confidence."
TLDR version:
Society's attitude towards hair loss:
"You look horrible, now quit whining and move on."Comment
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Think if somebody would laugh at my hair loss, i would shave them bald.
I read something the other day, that our government doesn't want to invest in hairloss products or not much anyway.
Meanwhile religious people like the church and mosks get a funding for their imaginary friend. Just plain ridiculous.Comment
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