George Cotsarelis and upenn new article today

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  • Hair Bear
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 113

    I actually feel as if everyone is somewhat manufacturing their products around Follica's research, if Follica claimed that they'd used goats droppings in their latest round of trials with results then I know of at least one company that will market it and another will put large sums of money behind it to exploit the market asap, whether it is true or not let alone beneficial is not important to them as long as they can get some sort of returns based purely on hype.

    Follica have been around for quite a while but from a technical stand point have always been progressing at a steady pace, I'd just like to have some sort of deeper understanding and knowledge of where they are technically at direct from the horses mouth.

    Given what I have read there seems to be adequate information to suggest they they are not working towards a treatment to halt hair loss and maintain it rather they are attempting to reverse hair loss and regrow strands of hair where there once was.

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    • Thinning87
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 839

      Originally posted by Hair Bear
      Follica have been around for quite a while but from a technical stand point have always been progressing at a steady pace, I'd just like to have some sort of deeper understanding and knowledge of where they are technically at direct from the horses mouth.
      Exactly. Consistent, steady progress; not as fast as we'd hope, but good progress is being made and we are seeing small signs every six months. This is really good.

      Originally posted by Hair Bear
      Given what I have read there seems to be adequate information to suggest they they are not working towards a treatment to halt hair loss and maintain it rather they are attempting to reverse hair loss and regrow strands of hair where there once was.
      Luckily for those like us who will continue to bald quite a bit at least before anything new comes out, it seems like prevention of hair loss and creation of new follicles are related to the same scientific concepts and in other words once you understand how to do one, you also understand how to do the other.

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      • Scientalk56
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 280

        Originally posted by Thinning87
        Exactly. Consistent, steady progress; not as fast as we'd hope, but good progress is being made and we are seeing small signs every six months. This is really good.
        not as fast as my falling hair...

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        • Scientalk56
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 280

          I'm a realistic person, i'm not waiting for a cure, just a better and safer treatment than propecia.. but it seems like it's a lot to ask for..

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          • Thinning87
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 839

            Ask who? Does anyone owe you this? Are you entitled to someone else giving you something because you're unhappy?

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            • Scientalk56
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 280

              Originally posted by Thinning87
              Ask who? Does anyone owe you this? Are you entitled to someone else giving you something because you're unhappy?
              asking the universe.. lol

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              • BoSox
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2010
                • 697

                Originally posted by Scientalk56
                I'm a realistic person, i'm not waiting for a cure, just a better and safer treatment than propecia.. but it seems like it's a lot to ask for..
                Any treatment compared to propecia is not good enough. It's 2014, we need a cure not something that barely works.

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                • hellouser
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 4419

                  Originally posted by BoSox
                  Any treatment compared to propecia is not good enough. It's 2014, we need a cure not something that barely works.
                  Amen.

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                  • UK_
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 2691

                    Originally posted by hellouser
                    They're definitely NOT going to release a product that simply slows down hair loss... we've had garbage products like that for the last 20+ years; finasteride and minoxidil.

                    Spencer Kobren confirmed they created NEW hair follicles...
                    Oh God I know... they must realise if they release a product that slows hair loss down nobody will care... it will be like finasteride (only 7% of potential market would seek treatment)... what would be revolutionary is new hair on slick scalp.

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                    • yeahyeahyeah
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 1776

                      Originally posted by UK_
                      Oh God I know... they must realise if they release a product that slows hair loss down nobody will care... it will be like finasteride (only 7% of potential market would seek treatment)... what would be revolutionary is new hair on slick scalp.
                      Ever thought that the only reason why 7% seek treatment is because they are scared of sides?

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                      • hellouser
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 4419

                        Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                        Ever thought that the only reason why 7% seek treatment is because they are scared of sides?
                        It's not really JUST the sides... its the really TERRIBLE results that come with it too; 20% regrowth, IF achieved? Thats garbage.

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                        • UK_
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 2691

                          Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                          Ever thought that the only reason why 7% seek treatment is because they are scared of sides?
                          Yeah... I'm one of them.

                          But I think it's mostly because the majority of people out there are too far gone for propecia to even help, it just doesnt create the same buzz as a NW7 guy going down to a NW2.

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                          • yeahyeahyeah
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 1776

                            Originally posted by UK_
                            Yeah... I'm one of them.

                            But I think it's mostly because the majority of people out there are too far gone for propecia to even help, it just doesnt create the same buzz as a NW7 guy going down to a NW2.
                            BUT if there was a good preventative treatment out there, there will be no more NW7s.

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                            • burtandernie
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 1563

                              Yeah more preventative measures would be good. I dont think preventing MPB is quite a solved problem yet even with propecia or dut there is more going on with receptors and sensitivity that allows MPB to slowly keep progressing. We need a more powerful AA that is hopefully safer to use long term

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                              • UK_
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 2691

                                We've been over this topic a billion times.

                                God this place is getting boring.

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